Competition Bill [Lords] — Abuse of dominant position — 8 Jul 1998

I beg to move amendment No. 48, in page 10, line 38, at end insert--

'(2A) For the purposes of this section "market" means a market the whole or part of which is in the United Kingdom but in relation to the abuse of a dominant position in a market which extends beyond the United Kingdom the prohibition imposed by subsection (1) shall not be regarded as infringed unless that abuse occurs in the United Kingdom.'.

Clause 18 outlines the chapter II prohibition on an abuse of dominant position in a market, which is one of the two key prohibitions contained in the Bill. In Committee, we did not debate an amendment that had the same purpose as amendment No. 48, but we discussed some of the related issues--indeed, I tabled the amendment in the light of some of our discussions.

In the execution of the prohibition, it is obviously necessary to define a market, but that is done neither in clause 18 nor elsewhere in the Bill. The draft guidance issued by the Director General of Fair Trading makes it clear, in paragraph 2.12, that a market definition comprises two dimensions:

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn .

I beg to move amendment No. 1, in page 10, leave out lines 40 and 41 and insert

8 Jul 1998 : Column 1136

The Sun did not run a banner headline, "It Was The Sun Wot Won It" because of mere vulgar braggadocio, but because it believed that it was true. The Prodi incident caused consternation not because it was an unedifying example of politicians operating at the behest of business men, but because the business man was Rupert Murdoch, who is, in effect, a strong and established politician.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

Amendment proposed: No. 8, in page 10, leave out lines 40 and 41 and insert

Question put, That the amendment be made:--

The House divided: Ayes 68, Noes 301.

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Charlotte AtkinsStaffordshire MoorlandsLabno
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Barbara FollettStevenageLabno
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David DrewStroudLab (minister)no
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Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)no
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Kate HoeyVauxhallLabno
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Claire WardWatfordLabno
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Mike HallWeaver ValeLabno
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Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLabno
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Ken PurchaseWolverhampton North EastLabno
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Michael FosterWorcesterLabno
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Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLabno

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