Criminal Justice (Mode of Trial) (No. 2) Bill — 25 Jul 2000

Mr Denzil Davies MP, Llanelli voted in the minority (No).

Not amended in the Standing Committee, again considered.

Question again proposed, That the amendment be made.

(1) The court shall consider whether the offence

(2) For the purpose of subsection (1) above the court shall consider--

(a) the nature of the case;

(b) any of the circumstances of the offence (but not of the accused) which appears to the court to be relevant; and

(c) whether, having regard to the matters to be considered under paragraph (b), the punishment which a magistrates' court would have power to impose for the offence would be adequate.

whether in all circumstances of the case a denial of jury trial would impinge upon the rights not only of the accused but also of the community at large to have the matter considered and adjudicated by a jury.

any of the circumstances of the offence (but not of the accused) . . .

the nature of the case.

There will be safeguards, including a requirement on magistrates to consider the effect of conviction on a defendant's reputation and livelihood when considering the mode of trial.

The controversial provision for the court to consider reputation and livelihood, which discriminated in favour of those with apparently good character has been removed; but this is likely to lead to more cases being retained by magistrates. It should be also noted that the new criteria are likely to lead to a new, and diametrically opposite, discrimination. Sentences are likely to be higher in respect of people with previous criminal convictions, who may therefore be outside the court's sentencing powers.

That leads to the question whether we trust magistrates more than judges. I shall not beat around the bush: I trust a judge and jury more than I trust the Bench.--[ Official Report, Standing Committee D , 25 May 2000; c. 35.]

It being five hours after the commencement of proceedings on the allocation of time motion, Mr. Deputy Speaker , pursuant to Order [this day], put forthwith the Question already proposed from the Chair.

Amendment negatived.

Question put, That the Bill be now read the Third time:--

The House divided: Ayes 282, Noes 199.

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Party Summary

Votes by party, red entries are votes against the majority for that party.

What is Tell? '+1 tell' means that in addition one member of that party was a teller for that division lobby.

What are Boths? An MP can vote both aye and no in the same division. The boths page explains this.

What is Turnout? This is measured against the total membership of the party at the time of the vote.

PartyMajority (Aye)Minority (No)BothTurnout
Con0 129 (+2 tell)081.9%
Independent0 1033.3%
Lab282 (+2 tell) 28075.0%
LDem0 38080.9%
PC0 2050.0%
UUP0 1011.1%
Total:282 199075.9%

Rebel Voters - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote in this division differed from the majority vote of their party. You can see all votes in this division, or every eligible MP who could have voted in this division

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NameConstituencyPartyVote
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLab (minister)no
Mr Harry BarnesNorth East DerbyshireLabno
Mr Andrew BennettDenton and ReddishLabno
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLabno
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno
John CryerHornchurchLab (minister)no
Mr Denzil DaviesLlanelliLabno
Mr Terry DavisBirmingham, Hodge HillLabno
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLabno
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno
Paul FlynnNewport WestLabno
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLabno
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLabno
Mr Alan HurstBraintreeLabno
Ms Jenny JonesWolverhampton South WestLabno
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLabno
David KidneyStaffordLabno
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLabno
Mrs Alice MahonHalifaxLabno
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLab (minister)no
Mr Kevin McNamaraKingston upon Hull NorthLabno
Gordon PrenticePendleLabno
Mr Brian SedgemoreHackney South and ShoreditchLabno
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno
Dennis SkinnerBolsoverLab (minister)no
Robert WareingLiverpool, West DerbyLabno

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