Comparison of Divisions: Terrorism Bill — Clause 1(2) — Offence of Glorifying Terrorism — 2 Nov 2005 at 15:57 with Division No. 87 on 9 Nov 2005 at 20:00

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) : Terrorism Bill — Clause 1(2) — Offence of Glorifying Terrorism - 2 Nov 2005 at 15:57 - Division No. 75

The majority of MPs voted to make glorifying the commission or preparation of acts of terrorism an offense.

Those voting Aye wished to delete subsection (2) of Clause 1 of the Terrorism Bill

Subsection (2) says:

  • ...[S]tatements that are likely to be understood by members of the public as indirectly encouraging... acts of terrorism... include every statement which-
  • (a) glorifies the commission or preparation (whether in the past, in the future or generally) of such acts or offences; and
  • (b) is a statement from which those members of the public could reasonably be expected to infer that what is being glorified is being glorified as conduct that should be emulated in existing circumstances.
  • This provision interprets subsection (1) which asserts that both direct and indirect encouragement of terrorism is an offence.

Vote (b) : Terrorism Bill — Clause 1(2) — Encouragement of Terrorism — "glorifies" - 9 Nov 2005 at 20:00 - Division No. 87

This appears identical to Division 75 on 2005-11-02. A comparison of votes can be seen here.

Those voting Aye wished to delete subsection (2) of Clause 1 of the Terrorism Bill.

Subsection (2) says:

...[S]tatements that are likely to be understood by members of the public as indirectly encouraging... acts of terrorism... include every statement which-
(a) glorifies the commission or preparation (whether in the past, in the future or generally) of such acts or offences; and
(b) is a statement from which those members of the public could reasonably be expected to infer that what is being glorified is being glorified as conduct that should be emulated in existing circumstances.

This is a clarification of subsection (1) which asserts that direct and indirect encouragement of terrorism is an offence.

Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

Sort by: Name | Constituency | Party | Vote (a) | Vote (b)

NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Tony BaldryBanburyConaye absent
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)aye absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
Mark HobanFarehamConaye absent
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConaye absent
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew SelousSouth West BedfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Simon BurnsWest ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Angela WatkinsonUpminsterCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye no
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)aye no
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye no
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)aye no
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)aye no
Jon TrickettHemsworthLab (minister)aye no
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLab (minister)aye absent
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Gordon PrenticePendleLab (minister)aye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye absent
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)no absent
Tony BlairSedgefieldLab (minister)no absent
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLabno absent
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)no absent
David DrewStroudLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)no absent
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLab (minister)no absent
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLab (minister)no absent
Sally KeebleNorthampton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Rob MarrisWolverhampton South WestLab (minister)no absent
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)no absent
Ian PearsonDudley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Christine RussellCity of ChesterLab (minister)no absent
Barry SheermanHuddersfieldLab (minister)no absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)no absent
Desmond TurnerBrighton, KemptownLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLab (minister)absent no
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)absent no
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)absent no
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)absent no
Ann KeenBrentford and IsleworthLababsent no
Tony LloydManchester CentralLababsent no
Alan MealeMansfieldLababsent no
Chris MullinSunderland SouthLababsent no
Helen SouthworthWarrington SouthLab (minister)absent no
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLababsent no
Mark OatenWinchesterLDem (front bench)aye absent
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
George GallowayBethnal Green and BowRespectabsent aye
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Eddie McGradySouth DownSDLPabsent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 556 voted the same way, with 7 voting in opposite ways. There were 22 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 61 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
556
(556 + 7 + 0.2x61)
=
556
575.2
= 0.967 = 96.7 %.


About the Project

The Public Whip is a not-for-profit, open source website created in 2003 by Francis Irving and Julian Todd and now run by Bairwell Ltd.

There are lots of plans afoot, including extensive redevelopment of the site and plans for new functionality. To keep up with what's happening, please check out the blog. We're working on updating all the contact details throughout the site, but if you'd like to talk to us about the project, please email [email protected]

The Whip on the Web

Advertisement - Helping keeping PublicWhip alive