Comparison of Divisions: BBC — 21 Jun 2006 at 15:49 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) : BBC - 21 Jun 2006 at 15:49 - Division No. 269

The No voters succesfully amended the motion text from:

That this House recognises that the BBC is renowned throughout the world for its quality programming; further recognises the high regard in which it is held by the British public; expresses concern that the final decision over the new licence fee settlement has been delayed without adequate explanation by the Secretary of State; believes that greater transparency of the process is required to deliver value for money for the licence fee payer; expresses concern that a larger than necessary increase will undermine public confidence in the licence fee and will hit low income families the hardest; further expresses concern at the continued uncertainty over the costs of digital switchover; believes that the National Audit Office should be allowed a greater role in scrutinising the BBC's accounts; and calls for a debate on the floor of the House on a substantive Motion to approve any new licence fee settlement.
To:
That this House recognises that the BBC is renowned throughout the world for its quality programming; further recognises the high regard in which it is held by the British; notes that the decision on the next licence fee settlement will represent best value and be announced in good time to take effect before the current settlement expires in April 2007; further notes that the decision-making process has been one of unprecedented public consultation and transparency and that the settlement should ensure a strong and independent BBC; further notes that the costs of switchover will be one of the considerations in setting the level of the licence fee; welcomes the strengthening of the arrangements for the National Audit Office's involvement with the BBC; and recognises that changes to the level of the licence fee are subject to Parliamentary scrutiny by the negative resolution procedure.

Which passed without a further vote.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)aye absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Boris JohnsonHenleyCon (front bench)aye absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conaye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
David GaukeSouth West HertfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
John HayesSouth Holland and The DeepingsCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)absent aye
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Brooks NewmarkBraintreeCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark PritchardThe WrekinCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Desmond SwayneNew Forest WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Bill WigginLeominsterCon (front bench)absent aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy WrightRugby and KenilworthConabsent aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)no aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)tellno aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLabno aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLabno aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabno aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLabno absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabno absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)no absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLab (minister)no absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)no absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)no absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
David AndersonBlaydonLab (minister)absent no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Clive BettsSheffield, AttercliffeLab (minister)absent no
Hazel BlearsSalfordLab (minister)absent no
Kevin BrennanCardiff WestLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
Dawn ButlerBrent SouthLab (minister)absent no
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)absent no
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)absent no
Wayne DavidCaerphillyLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Andrew DismoreHendonLab (minister)absent no
Brian H DonohoeCentral AyrshireLab (minister)absent no
Hywel FrancisAberavonLab (minister)absent no
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Nia GriffithLlanelliLab (minister)absent no
Tom HarrisGlasgow SouthLab (minister)absent no
Mark HendrickPrestonLab (minister)absent no
Sally KeebleNorthampton NorthLab (minister)absent no
Jane KennedyLiverpool, WavertreeLababsent no
Bob LaxtonDerby NorthLababsent no
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)absent no
Shahid MalikDewsburyLab (minister)absent no
Steve McCabeBirmingham, Hall GreenLab (minister)absent no
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)absent no
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLab (minister)absent no
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)absent no
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)absent no
Bill OlnerNuneatonLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Joan RuddockLewisham, DeptfordLab (minister)absent no
Alison SeabeckPlymouth, DevonportLab (minister)absent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Angela SmithBasildonLab (minister)absent no
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLababsent no
Peter SoulsbyLeicester SouthLab (minister)absent no
Phyllis StarkeyMilton Keynes South WestLab (minister)absent no
Gareth ThomasHarrow WestLab (minister)absent no
Don TouhigIslwynLab (minister)absent no
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)absent tellno
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Derek WyattSittingbourne and SheppeyLab (minister)absent no
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Norman BakerLewesLDemabsent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)no aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)aye absent
Alex SalmondBanff and BuchanSNP (front bench)aye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 644 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 397 voted the same way, with 29 voting in opposite ways. There were 53 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 165 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
397
(397 + 29 + 0.2x165)
=
397
459
= 0.865 = 86.5 %.


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