Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — Clause 19 — Timing — 6 Feb 2007 at 20:45 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — Clause 19 — Timing - 6 Feb 2007 at 20:45 - Division No. 44

I beg to move amendment No. 24, page 15, line 32, leave out clause 19.

Question put, That the amendment be made:-

The House divided: Ayes 48, Noes 330.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Opposite in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) was opposite to their vote on Motion (b). You can also see all differing votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)no aye
Richard BenyonNewburyCon (front bench)no aye
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)no aye
Peter BoneWellingboroughCon (front bench)no aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)no aye
Simon BurnsWest ChelmsfordCon (front bench)no aye
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)no aye
Geoffrey CoxTorridge and West DevonCon (front bench)no aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)no aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)no aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)no aye
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)no aye
Robert GoodwillScarborough and WhitbyCon (front bench)no aye
Damian GreenAshfordCon (front bench)no aye
Stephen HammondWimbledonCon (front bench)no aye
Mark HarperForest of DeanCon (front bench)no aye
John HayesSouth Holland and The DeepingsCon (front bench)no aye
Nick HerbertArundel and South DownsCon (front bench)no aye
Philip HolloboneKetteringCon (front bench)no aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)no aye
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)no aye
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)no aye
Ian Liddell-GraingerBridgwaterCon (front bench)no aye
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)no aye
Anne McIntoshVale of YorkCon (front bench)no aye
Patrick McLoughlinWest DerbyshireCon (front bench)no aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)no aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)no aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)no aye
Andrew RobathanBlabyCon (front bench)no aye
Laurence RobertsonTewkesburyCon (front bench)no aye
Andrew SelousSouth West BedfordshireCon (front bench)no aye
Grant ShappsWelwyn HatfieldCon (front bench)no aye
Michael SpicerWest WorcestershireCon (front bench)no aye
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)no aye
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)no aye
Robert SymsPooleCon (front bench)no aye
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConno aye
Charles WalkerBroxbourneCon (front bench)no aye
Angela WatkinsonUpminsterCon (front bench)no aye
John WhittingdaleMaldon and East ChelmsfordCon (front bench)no aye
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)no aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)no aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)no aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)no aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)no aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPno aye
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)no aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabno aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)no aye

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