Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — Schedule 2 — Repeals — 27 Feb 2007 at 21:49 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — Schedule 2 — Repeals - 27 Feb 2007 at 21:49 - Division No. 60

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.

We have had extensive debate today and in Committee- <[/i> Interruption. ]

The House having divided: Ayes 285, Noes 194.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Tim BoswellDaventryConno absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Boris JohnsonHenleyCon (front bench)no absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)no absent
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)no absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)no absent
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
David GaukeSouth West HertfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Stephen HammondWimbledonCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark HobanFarehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Anne MainSt AlbansCon (front bench)absent aye
Maria MillerBasingstokeCon (front bench)absent aye
Brooks NewmarkBraintreeCon (front bench)absent aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Andrew TurnerIsle of WightConabsent aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Ben WallaceLancaster and WyreCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy WrightRugby and KenilworthConabsent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)aye aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabaye aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabaye absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabaye absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)aye absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabaye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)aye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)aye absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)aye absent
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)aye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)aye absent
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabaye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labaye absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLababsent aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLababsent aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLababsent aye
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Andy BurnhamLeighLab (minister)absent no
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Wayne DavidCaerphillyLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Michael Jabez FosterHastings and RyeLab (minister)absent no
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)absent no
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
Tom HarrisGlasgow SouthLab (minister)absent no
Phil HopeCorbyLab (minister)absent no
Beverley HughesStretford and UrmstonLab (minister)absent no
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLab (minister)absent no
Kevan JonesNorth DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Sally KeebleNorthampton NorthLab (minister)absent no
Sadiq KhanTootingLab (minister)absent no
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)absent no
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)absent no
Tony McNultyHarrow EastLab (minister)absent no
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)absent no
Dan NorrisWansdykeLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLababsent no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Helen SouthworthWarrington SouthLab (minister)absent no
John SpellarWarleyLababsent no
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Gareth ThomasHarrow WestLab (minister)absent no
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)absent no
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
Tom WatsonWest Bromwich EastLab (minister)absent no
Michael WillsNorth SwindonLababsent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Rosie WintertonDoncaster CentralLab (minister)absent no
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDemno absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)no absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Norman BakerLewesLDemabsent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)aye aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 25 voted the same way, with 369 voting in opposite ways. There were 48 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 204 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
369
(369 + 25 + 0.2x204)
=
369
434.8
= 0.849 = 84.9 %.


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