Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — New Clause 29 — Reduction of regulatory burdens — 17 May 2007 at 15:45 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — New Clause 29 — Reduction of regulatory burdens - 17 May 2007 at 15:45 - Division No. 114

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

Question put, That the clause be read a Second time:-

The House divided: Ayes 146, Noes 250.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Frank DoranAberdeen NorthLab (minister)absent no
Anne BeggAberdeen SouthLab (minister)absent no
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)no absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Jeff EnnisBarnsley East and MexboroughLab (minister)absent no
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
Maria MillerBasingstokeCon (front bench)absent aye
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Siôn SimonBirmingham, ErdingtonLababsent no
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)absent no
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)tellaye absent
Ann KeenBrentford and IsleworthLab (minister)absent no
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian Liddell-GraingerBridgwaterCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Dawn PrimaroloBristol SouthLab (minister)absent no
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Janet DeanBurtonLab (minister)absent no
David ChaytorBury NorthLab (minister)absent no
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Roberta Blackman-WoodsCity of DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Phil HopeCorbyLab (minister)absent no
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey RobinsonCoventry North WestLababsent no
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)absent no
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Tim BoswellDaventryConaye absent
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Ian AustinDudley NorthLab (minister)absent no
Ian PearsonDudley SouthLab (minister)absent no
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Andrew SlaughterEaling, Acton and Shepherd's BushLab (minister)absent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Joan RyanEnfield NorthLab (minister)absent no
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Ben BradshawExeterLab (minister)absent no
Eric JoyceFalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Alan KeenFeltham and HestonLab (minister)absent no
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Ann McKechinGlasgow NorthLab (minister)absent no
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)absent aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Iain WrightHartlepoolLab (minister)absent no
Michael Jabez FosterHastings and RyeLab (minister)absent no
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Peter AtkinsonHexhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Tom LevittHigh PeakLab (minister)absent no
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)absent aye
Fraser KempHoughton and Washington EastLababsent no
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Andrew TurnerIsle of WightConabsent aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)absent no
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
Diana R. JohnsonKingston upon Hull NorthLab (minister)absent no
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLabno aye
Bill WigginLeominsterCon (front bench)absent aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Maria EagleLiverpool, GarstonLab (minister)absent no
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Jane KennedyLiverpool, WavertreeLababsent no
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Jim DevineLivingstonLab (minister)absent no
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)absent no
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)absent no
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)absent no
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Richard BenyonNewburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConaye absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Mike O'BrienNorth WarwickshireLab (minister)absent no
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Henry BellinghamNorth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Sally KeebleNorthampton NorthLab (minister)absent no
Steve WebbNorthavonLDemabsent aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLababsent no
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Stephen CrabbPreseli PembrokeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Rob WilsonReading EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy WrightRugby and KenilworthConabsent aye
Hazel BlearsSalfordLab (minister)absent no
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert GoodwillScarborough and WhitbyCon (front bench)absent aye
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Clive BettsSheffield, AttercliffeLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Angela SmithSheffield, HillsboroughLab (minister)absent no
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)absent aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)no absent
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)absent no
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
Anne MainSt AlbansCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDemabsent aye
Barbara FollettStevenageLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
Lynda WalthoStourbridgeLab (minister)absent no
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Laurence RobertsonTewkesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)absent no
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Angela WatkinsonUpminsterCon (front bench)absent aye
John RandallUxbridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Kate HoeyVauxhallLabno aye
David WinnickWalsall NorthLab (minister)absent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Peter BoneWellingboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tom WatsonWest Bromwich EastLab (minister)absent no
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)absent aye
Rosie CooperWest LancashireLab (minister)absent no
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Stephen HammondWimbledonCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
John RedwoodWokinghamConabsent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Tony CunninghamWorkingtonLab (minister)absent no
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 305 voted the same way, with 23 voting in opposite ways. There were 65 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 253 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
305
(305 + 23 + 0.2x253)
=
305
378.6
= 0.806 = 80.6 %.


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