Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — Clause 179 — Abolition of functions of Patients' Forums — 17 May 2007 at 17:15 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — Clause 179 — Abolition of functions of Patients' Forums - 17 May 2007 at 17:15 - Division No. 116

Amendment proposed, No. 80, in page 126, line 32, leave out clause 179.- [Mr. Baron.]

Question put, That the amendment be made:-

The House divided: Ayes 133, Noes 240.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by name

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLababsent no
Peter AtkinsonHexhamCon (front bench)absent aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Anne BeggAberdeen SouthLab (minister)absent no
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Henry BellinghamNorth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
Richard BenyonNewburyCon (front bench)absent aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Clive BettsSheffield, AttercliffeLab (minister)absent no
Roberta Blackman-WoodsCity of DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Hazel BlearsSalfordLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BoneWellingboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim BoswellDaventryConaye absent
Ben BradshawExeterLab (minister)absent no
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)tellno aye
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)absent no
David ChaytorBury NorthLab (minister)absent no
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Paul ClarkGillinghamLab (minister)absent no
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Rosie CooperWest LancashireLab (minister)absent no
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen CrabbPreseli PembrokeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Tony CunninghamWorkingtonLab (minister)absent no
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)absent no
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Janet DeanBurtonLab (minister)absent no
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)absent no
Jim DevineLivingstonLab (minister)absent no
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Frank DoranAberdeen NorthLab (minister)absent no
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Jim DowdLewisham WestLab (minister)absent no
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Maria EagleLiverpool, GarstonLab (minister)absent no
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Barbara FollettStevenageLab (minister)absent no
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDemabsent aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert GoodwillScarborough and WhitbyCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)absent no
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)absent no
Stephen HammondWimbledonCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Stephen HepburnJarrowLab (minister)absent no
Nick HerbertArundel and South DownsCon (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Mark HobanFarehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLababsent aye
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
Phil HopeCorbyLab (minister)absent no
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLab (minister)absent no
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Diana R. JohnsonKingston upon Hull NorthLab (minister)absent no
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Eric JoyceFalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Alan KeenFeltham and HestonLab (minister)absent no
Ann KeenBrentford and IsleworthLab (minister)absent no
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)absent no
Fraser KempHoughton and Washington EastLababsent no
Jane KennedyLiverpool, WavertreeLababsent no
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Jim KnightSouth DorsetLab (minister)absent no
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)absent aye
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Tom LevittHigh PeakLab (minister)absent no
Ian Liddell-GraingerBridgwaterCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)absent no
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Anne MainSt AlbansCon (front bench)absent aye
Shahid MalikDewsburyLab (minister)absent no
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)no absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Ann McKechinGlasgow NorthLab (minister)absent no
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)absent no
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)no absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Maria MillerBasingstokeCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Laura MoffattCrawleyLab (minister)absent no
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)absent no
Mike O'BrienNorth WarwickshireLab (minister)absent no
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)no absent
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Dawn PrimaroloBristol SouthLab (minister)absent no
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
John RandallUxbridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLababsent aye
John RedwoodWokinghamConabsent aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)no absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)absent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Laurence RobertsonTewkesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)absent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Siôn SimonBirmingham, ErdingtonLababsent no
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew SlaughterEaling, Acton and Shepherd's BushLab (minister)absent no
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Angela SmithSheffield, HillsboroughLab (minister)absent no
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)absent no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)absent aye
Desmond SwayneNew Forest WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Hugo SwireEast DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)absent no
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Paul TruswellPudseyLabboth aye
Andrew TurnerIsle of WightConabsent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLabno aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)absent aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConaye absent
Lynda WalthoStourbridgeLab (minister)absent no
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Angela WatkinsonUpminsterCon (front bench)absent aye
Tom WatsonWest Bromwich EastLab (minister)absent no
Steve WebbNorthavonLDemabsent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Bill WigginLeominsterCon (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Rob WilsonReading EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Iain WrightHartlepoolLab (minister)absent no
Jeremy WrightRugby and KenilworthConabsent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 282 voted the same way, with 20 voting in opposite ways. There were 64 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 280 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
282
(282 + 20 + 0.2x280)
=
282
358
= 0.788 = 78.8 %.


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