Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — Clause 5 — Small companies' rates and fractions for financial year 2008 etc — 28 Apr 2008 at 16:45 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — Clause 5 — Small companies' rates and fractions for financial year 2008 etc - 28 Apr 2008 at 16:45 - Division No. 152

I beg to move amendment No. 1, page 2, line 36, leave out '21%' and insert '20%'.

The Committee having divided: Ayes 193, Noes 296.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)aye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Sir David AmessSouthend WestCon (front bench)absent aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)absent aye
Henry BellinghamNorth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey CoxTorridge and West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Philip DaviesShipleyConabsent aye
Jonathan DjanoglyHuntingdonCon (front bench)absent aye
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FabricantLichfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)absent aye
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Nick HerbertArundel and South DownsCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Nick HurdRuislip - NorthwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)absent aye
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick MercerNewarkCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark PritchardThe WrekinCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew SelousSouth West BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Grant ShappsWelwyn HatfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Desmond SwayneNew Forest WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabno aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)no aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabno absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLabno absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLabno absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLabno absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)absent aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLababsent aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLababsent aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
David AndersonBlaydonLab (minister)absent no
Ian AustinDudley NorthLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
Peter HainNeathLababsent no
Stephen HepburnJarrowLab (minister)absent no
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Alan KeenFeltham and HestonLab (minister)absent no
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLababsent no
Tony McNultyHarrow EastLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Chris RuaneVale of ClwydLab (minister)absent no
Jim SheridanPaisley and Renfrewshire NorthLab (minister)absent no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Mark TamiAlyn and DeesideLab (minister)absent no
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)absent no
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)absent tellno
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)absent no
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemaye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)absent aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDemabsent aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)absent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)absent aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)aye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst UKIP (front bench)aye absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 394 voted the same way, with 18 voting in opposite ways. There were 53 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 180 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
394
(394 + 18 + 0.2x180)
=
394
448
= 0.879 = 87.9 %.


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