Comparison of Divisions: MPs' salaries — £650 catch-up payment — rejected — 3 Jul 2008 at 15:05 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : MPs' salaries — £650 catch-up payment — rejected - 3 Jul 2008 at 15:05 - Division No. 252

The majority of MPs voted against the motion:[1]

  • This House notes Sir John Baker's Review of Parliamentary Pay and Allowances (Cm 7416), and is of the opinion that the recommendation in paragraph 51 of the Review for increases over three years additional to those resulting from other uprating provisions should be implemented, such that the annual salary of a Member 5 of this House should be increased on each of 1st April 2008, 1st April 2009 and 1st April 2010 by a sum of £650 in addition to (and after) any other change taking effect from that date by virtue of any other resolution of this House.

Paragraph 51 of the report says:[2]

  • I therefore recommend that the MPs’ salary with effect from 1 April 2008 should be £64,634. This is the current salary of £61,820 plus 3.5 per cent (the annual increase in the three month average Public Sector Average Earnings Index (ONS series LNNE) in January) plus £650. The MPs’ salary should increase again by the PSAEI annual percentage increase plus £650 on 1 April 2009 and 1 April 2010. Thereafter the salary should be increased each year simply by the PSAEI annual percentage increase unless the Independent Body determines differently following a review.

This catch-up payment is debated by MPs here.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Opposite in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) was opposite to their vote on Motion (b). You can also see all differing votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Julian BrazierCanterburyCon (front bench)no aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)no aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)no aye
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)no aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)no aye
Mark FrancoisRayleighCon (front bench)no aye
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)no aye
Robert GoodwillScarborough and WhitbyCon (front bench)no aye
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)no aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)no aye
Damian GreenAshfordCon (front bench)no aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)no aye
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)no aye
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)no aye
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)no aye
Greg HandsHammersmith and FulhamCon (front bench)no aye
Nick HerbertArundel and South DownsCon (front bench)no aye
Philip HolloboneKetteringCon (front bench)no aye
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)no aye
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)no aye
Ian Liddell-GraingerBridgwaterCon (front bench)no aye
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)no aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)no aye
Patrick McLoughlinWest DerbyshireCon (front bench)no aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)no aye
Brooks NewmarkBraintreeCon (front bench)no aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)no aye
John RandallUxbridgeCon (front bench)no aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConno aye
Andrew SelousSouth West BedfordshireCon (front bench)no aye
Desmond SwayneNew Forest WestCon (front bench)no aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonConno aye
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)no aye
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)no aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentno aye
Nick AingerCarmarthen West and South PembrokeshireLab (minister)aye no
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLabaye no
Janet AndersonRossendale and DarwenLab (minister)aye no
Kevin BarronRother ValleyLab (minister)aye no
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)aye no
Clive BettsSheffield, AttercliffeLab (minister)aye no
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)aye no
Tom ClarkeCoatbridge, Chryston and BellshillLab (minister)aye no
David ClellandTyne BridgeLab (minister)aye no
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)aye no
Michael ConnartyLinlithgow and East FalkirkLab (minister)aye no
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)aye no
John CummingsEasingtonLab (minister)aye no
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)aye no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)aye no
Brian H DonohoeCentral AyrshireLab (minister)aye no
Jim DowdLewisham WestLab (minister)aye no
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)aye no
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)aye no
George HowarthKnowsley North and Sefton EastLab (minister)aye no
Brian IddonBolton South EastLab (minister)aye no
Brian JenkinsTamworthLab (minister)aye no
Helen JonesWarrington NorthLab (minister)aye no
Kevan JonesNorth DurhamLab (minister)aye no
Bob LaxtonDerby NorthLab (minister)aye no
Tom LevittHigh PeakLab (minister)aye no
Jim McGovernDundee WestLab (minister)aye no
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)aye no
Alun MichaelCardiff South and PenarthLab (minister)aye no
Andrew MillerEllesmere Port and NestonLab (minister)aye no
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)aye no
Denis MurphyWansbeckLab (minister)aye no
Gordon PrenticePendleLab (minister)aye no
Gwyn ProsserDoverLab (minister)aye no
Ken PurchaseWolverhampton North EastLab (minister)aye no
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLab (minister)aye no
Jim SheridanPaisley and Renfrewshire NorthLab (minister)aye no
John SpellarWarleyLabaye no
Don TouhigIslwynLab (minister)aye no
Desmond TurnerBrighton, KemptownLab (minister)aye no
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)no aye
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)no aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)no aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)no aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)no aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)no aye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)no aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)no aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)no aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)no aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)no aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)no aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)no aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)no aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)no aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)no aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)no aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)no tellaye
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)no aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDemno aye
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)no aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)no aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)no aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)no aye

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