Comparison of Divisions: Opposition Day — [11th Allotted Day — Second Part] — Manchester City Council Bill [ Lords] (By Order) — 29 Oct 2008 at 16:17 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Opposition Day — [11th Allotted Day — Second Part] — Manchester City Council Bill [ Lords] (By Order) - 29 Oct 2008 at 16:17 - Division No. 300

Question put, That the Question be now put:-

The House divided: Ayes 317, Noes 24.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Opposite in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) was opposite to their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see all differing votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Peter AtkinsonHexhamCon (front bench)aye aye
Tony BaldryBanburyConaye aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)aye aye
Richard BenyonNewburyCon (front bench)aye aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)aye aye
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)aye aye
Julian BrazierCanterburyCon (front bench)aye aye
James BrokenshireHornchurchCon (front bench)aye aye
Simon BurnsWest ChelmsfordCon (front bench)aye aye
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)aye aye
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)aye aye
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)aye aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)aye aye
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastCon (front bench)aye aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)aye aye
David EvennettBexleyheath and CrayfordCon (front bench)aye aye
Michael FabricantLichfieldCon (front bench)aye aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)aye aye
Robert GoodwillScarborough and WhitbyCon (front bench)aye aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)aye aye
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)aye aye
John HayesSouth Holland and The DeepingsCon (front bench)aye aye
Nick HerbertArundel and South DownsCon (front bench)aye aye
John HowellHenleyCon (front bench)aye aye
Anne MiltonGuildfordCon (front bench)aye aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)aye aye
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)aye aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)aye aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)aye aye
John RandallUxbridgeCon (front bench)aye aye
Andrew RobathanBlabyCon (front bench)aye aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)aye aye
Laurence RobertsonTewkesburyCon (front bench)aye aye
Andrew RosindellRomfordCon (front bench)aye aye
Lee ScottIlford NorthCon (front bench)aye aye
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)aye aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)aye aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)aye aye
Angela WatkinsonUpminsterCon (front bench)aye aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConaye aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)aye aye
Jeremy WrightRugby and KenilworthCon (front bench)aye aye
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)aye aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)aye aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)aye aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)aye aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPaye aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabaye aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabaye aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)aye aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)aye aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)aye aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)aye aye
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)aye aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)aye aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)aye aye
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)aye aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)aye aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)aye aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)aye aye
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)aye aye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)aye aye
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)aye aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDemaye aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)aye aye
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)aye aye
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)aye aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)aye aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)aye aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)aye aye

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