Comparison of Divisions: Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat — 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 with Division No. 186 on 14 May 2008 at 18:51

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

Vote (b) : Vehicle Excise Duty — planned increases should be abandoned — rejected - 14 May 2008 at 18:51 - Division No. 186

The majority of MPs voted against the motion before Parliament, which read:[1]

  • This House
  • notes with concern the increases in Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) imposed in the Budget;
  • notes that between 2006 and 2010 revenues from graduated VED will have more than doubled;
  • observes that the majority of motorists who currently pay graduated VED will now pay more;
  • deplores the Government's decision to abolish the exemption from higher graduated VED rates for cars that emit more than 186g of carbon dioxide per kilometre and were registered between March 2001 and March 2006, and the fact that this was not stated clearly at the time of the Budget;
  • considers that these changes will hit those on low incomes hardest and be a further burden on hard-working families already struggling to cope with soaring living costs;
  • further notes that, although graduated VED revenues will total £4.4 billion by 2010-11, carbon emissions from motoring are expected to reduce by less than 1% as a result of the new VED regime;
  • believes that any increases in environmental taxes should be offset by tax reductions elsewhere; and
  • calls upon the Government to abandon its planned increases in VED.

There was no alternative motion put in its place

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)aye absent
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)aye absent
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)aye absent
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Peter BoneWellingboroughCon (front bench)aye absent
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)aye absent
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)aye absent
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)aye absent
Greg ClarkTunbridge WellsCon (front bench)aye absent
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)aye absent
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)aye absent
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)aye absent
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael FabricantLichfieldCon (front bench)aye absent
Mark FieldCities of London and WestminsterCon (front bench)aye absent
David GaukeSouth West HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)aye absent
Robert GoodwillScarborough and WhitbyCon (front bench)aye absent
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)aye absent
Nick HerbertArundel and South DownsCon (front bench)aye absent
Philip HolloboneKetteringCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConaye absent
John HowellHenleyCon (front bench)aye absent
Nick HurdRuislip - NorthwoodCon (front bench)aye absent
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)aye absent
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)aye absent
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamConaye absent
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)aye absent
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)aye absent
Anne MainSt AlbansCon (front bench)aye absent
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)aye absent
Patrick MercerNewarkCon (front bench)aye absent
Maria MillerBasingstokeCon (front bench)aye absent
Anne MiltonGuildfordCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew MurrisonWestburyCon (front bench)aye absent
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)aye absent
Mike PenningHemel HempsteadCon (front bench)aye absent
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)aye absent
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)aye absent
John RandallUxbridgeCon (front bench)aye absent
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)aye absent
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)aye absent
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)aye absent
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)aye absent
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)aye absent
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)aye absent
Desmond SwayneNew Forest WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Robert SymsPooleCon (front bench)aye absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichCon (front bench)aye absent
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Ben WallaceLancaster and WyreCon (front bench)aye absent
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConaye absent
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)aye absent
Rob WilsonReading EastCon (front bench)aye absent
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)aye absent
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)aye absent
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)absent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)absent aye
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)absent aye
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConabsent aye
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)absent aye
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)absent aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)absent aye
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)absent aye
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)aye absent
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)aye absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)aye absent
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)aye absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPaye absent
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentaye no
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)aye absent
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)aye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentaye absent
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye no
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye no
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye no
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye no
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye no
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye no
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabaye no
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye no
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye no
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye no
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye no
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye no
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye no
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye no
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabaye no
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)aye absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye absent
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)aye absent
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLabno absent
Janet AndersonRossendale and DarwenLab (minister)no absent
Charlotte AtkinsStaffordshire MoorlandsLab (minister)no absent
Kevin BarronRother ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)no absent
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anne BeggAberdeen SouthLab (minister)no absent
Ben BradshawExeterLab (minister)no absent
Kevin BrennanCardiff WestLab (minister)no absent
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)no absent
Andy BurnhamLeighLab (minister)no absent
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)no absent
David ChaytorBury NorthLab (minister)no absent
David ClellandTyne BridgeLab (minister)no absent
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)no absent
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)no absent
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)no absent
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)no absent
Janet DeanBurtonLab (minister)no absent
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLabno absent
Brian H DonohoeCentral AyrshireLab (minister)no absent
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLabno absent
Rob FlelloStoke-on-Trent SouthLabno absent
Bruce GeorgeWalsall SouthLabno absent
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)no absent
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLabno absent
Kim HowellsPontypriddLabno absent
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLabno absent
Brian JenkinsTamworthLab (minister)no absent
Ann KeenBrentford and IsleworthLab (minister)no absent
Jim KnightSouth DorsetLab (minister)no absent
Tom LevittHigh PeakLab (minister)no absent
Shahid MalikDewsburyLab (minister)no absent
Steve McCabeBirmingham, Hall GreenLab (minister)no absent
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLabno absent
Ann McKechinGlasgow NorthLab (minister)no absent
Gillian MerronLincolnLab (minister)no absent
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)no absent
Denis MurphyWansbeckLab (minister)no absent
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)no absent
Doug NaysmithBristol North WestLab (minister)no absent
Gwyn ProsserDoverLab (minister)no absent
Ken PurchaseWolverhampton North EastLab (minister)no absent
James PurnellStalybridge and HydeLab (minister)no absent
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLab (minister)no absent
Joan RuddockLewisham, DeptfordLab (minister)no absent
Christine RussellCity of ChesterLab (minister)no absent
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)no absent
Helen SouthworthWarrington SouthLab (minister)no absent
Gerry SutcliffeBradford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Mark TamiAlyn and DeesideLab (minister)no absent
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)tellno absent
Tom WatsonWest Bromwich EastLab (minister)no absent
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLab (minister)no absent
David WinnickWalsall NorthLab (minister)no absent
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)both no
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)absent no
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)absent no
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)absent no
Colin BurgonElmetLababsent no
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLababsent no
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)absent no
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)absent no
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLababsent no
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLababsent no
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLababsent no
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)absent no
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)absent no
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLababsent no
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)absent no
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)absent no
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)absent no
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)absent no
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)absent no
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)absent no
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)absent no
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLababsent no
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLababsent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)absent no
Martin LintonBatterseaLababsent no
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLababsent no
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLababsent no
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLababsent no
Alan MealeMansfieldLababsent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)absent no
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)absent no
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)absent no
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)absent no
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLababsent no
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLababsent no
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)absent no
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)absent no
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLababsent no
Betty WilliamsConwyLababsent no
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)absent no
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)absent no
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)aye no
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)aye no
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)aye no
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)aye no
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)aye no
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)aye no
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)aye no
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)aye no
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)aye no
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)aye no
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)aye no
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)aye no
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)aye no
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)aye no
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)aye no
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)aye no
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)aye no
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDemaye no
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)aye no
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)aye no
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)tellaye no
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)aye no
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDem (front bench)aye no
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemaye no
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)aye no
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)aye no
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)aye no
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)aye absent
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)aye absent
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)aye absent
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)aye absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)aye absent
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)aye absent
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)aye absent
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)aye absent
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)aye absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)aye absent
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)aye absent
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)aye absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)aye absent
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)aye absent
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)tellaye absent
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)aye absent
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)aye absent
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)aye absent
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)aye absent
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)aye absent
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)aye absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)absent no
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)absent no
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)absent no
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)absent no
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)aye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)aye absent
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)absent aye
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst UKIP (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)aye absent

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 303 voted the same way, with 46 voting in opposite ways. There were 67 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 230 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
303
(303 + 46 + 0.2x230)
=
303
395
= 0.767 = 76.7 %.


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