Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill — New Clause 17 — Extension of Scope of Legal Aid — 2 Nov 2011 at 17:00
John Penrose MP, Weston-Super-Mare voted against making legal aid available to cover the entirety of assistance required where people are deemed to have complex, interconnected needs, some of which do not usually attract aid.
The majority of MPs voted against making legal aid available to cover the entirety of assistance required where people are deemed to have complex, interconnected needs, some of which do not usually attract aid.
The MP who proposed the new clause rejected in this vote, Yvonne Fovargue, explained she would like to see legal aid funding advisors to assist people with their problems, holistically, at a "one-stop shop":
- It is impossible to deal with one issue—for example, electricity disconnection—without dealing with problems such as tax credit underpayment and illegal deduction of wages. It is the natural state of affairs that one problem leads to another, and the merit of not-for-profit agencies dealing with that cluster is the availability of specialisms in a one-stop shop, and the ability to drill down to the root cause of the issue, which may be wrongful refusal of benefits or unfair dismissal leading to debt issues and potential homelessness.
MPs were considering the Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill. The text of the proposed new clause rejected by this vote was:
- Extension of scope of legal aid in complex cases
- ‘(1) Civil legal services other than services described in Part 1 of Schedule 1 are to be available to an individual under this Part if subsection (2) is satisfied.
- (2) This subsection is satisfied where the Director—
- (a) has made a complex case determination in relation to the individual and the services, and
- (b) has determined that the individual qualifies for the services in accordance with this Part, (and has not withdrawn either determination).
- (3) For the purposes of subsection (2), a complex case determination is a determination—
- (a) that the individual has complex, interconnected needs in relation to which the individual requires comprehensive civil legal services, and
- (b) not all of those civil legal services would otherwise be available to the individual because they do not all fall within the scope of Schedule 1.’.
-  Yvonne Fovargue MP, (Makerfield, Labour), House of Commons, 2 November 2011
-  Parliament's webpage on the Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill (now an Act)
Votes by party, red entries are votes against the majority for that party.
What is Tell? '+1 tell' means that in addition one member of that party was a teller for that division lobby.
What are Boths? An MP can vote both aye and no in the same division. The boths page explains this.
What is Turnout? This is measured against the total membership of the party at the time of the vote.
|Party||Majority (No)||Minority (Aye)||Both||Turnout|
|Con||261 (+1 tell)||0||0||85.6%|
|Lab||0||221 (+2 tell)||0||86.4%|
|LDem||40 (+1 tell)||10||0||89.5%|
|Tom Brake||Carshalton and Wallington||LDem||aye|
|Michael Crockart||Edinburgh West||LDem (front bench)||aye|
|Andrew George||St Ives||LDem (front bench)||aye|
|Mike Hancock||Portsmouth South||whilst LDem (front bench)||aye|
|Martin Horwood||Cheltenham||LDem (front bench)||aye|
|Simon Hughes||Bermondsey and Old Southwark||LDem (front bench)||aye|
|Stephen Lloyd||Eastbourne||LDem (front bench)||aye|
|Greg Mulholland||Leeds North West||LDem (front bench)||aye|
|Ian Swales||Redcar||LDem (front bench)||aye|
|David Ward||Bradford East||LDem (front bench)||aye|