Local Government Finance Bill — Report (2nd Day) — 16 Oct 2012 at 16:55

Lord Prescott was absent

Relevant documents: 4th and 7th Reports from the Delegated Powers Committee.

Schedule 1 : Local retention of non-domestic rates

Amendment 71 not moved.

Amendment 72

Moved by Baroness Hanham

72: Schedule 1, page 47, line 14, at end insert-

"Estimates of amounts to be disregarded

39A (1) The Secretary of State may by regulations make provision for-

(a) calculations of a kind mentioned in paragraph 37(1)(d) or 38(1)(d) to be made on the basis of an estimate of an amount or proportion that is to be disregarded under regulations under that paragraph;

(b) for the making of a payment by the Secretary of State to a billing authority or vice versa where it is subsequently determined that the amount or proportion to be disregarded is more or less than the amount of the estimate.

(2) Regulations under this paragraph may make provision about the administration of payments under the regulations, including as to-

(a) the time and manner in which a payment is to be made, and

(b) the consequences of non-payment."

Amendment 72 agreed.

Amendment 73 not moved.

Amendments 74 to 77

Moved by Baroness Hanham

74: Schedule 1, page 47, line 19, after "Schedule" insert "or Part 6 (funds) so far as applying to non-domestic rates"

75: Schedule 1, page 47, line 26, leave out "audited" and insert "certified"

76: Schedule 1, page 47, line 37, leave out "by an audit"

77: Schedule 1, page 48, line 5, at end insert-

"Regulations about calculations and supply of information

40A The Secretary of State may by regulations-

(a) make any provision that could be made by a direction under paragraph 40;

(b) make provision for the Secretary of State to give a direction that could be given under that paragraph;

(c) make any provision made by that paragraph in relation to a direction under it-

(i) in relation to provision made by regulations under this paragraph, or

(ii) in relation to a direction given by the Secretary of State under regulations under this paragraph."

Amendments 74 to 77 agreed.

Amendments 78 and 79 not moved.

Amendment 80 had been retabled as Amendment 4A.

Amendments 81 and 82 not moved.

Schedule 3 : Local retention of non-domestic rates: further amendments

Amendments 83 to 97

Moved by Baroness Hanham

83: Schedule 3, page 56, line 5, at end insert-

"( ) In subsection (1)(b), after "major precepting authority" insert "or the Secretary of State"."

84: Schedule 3, page 56, line 27, at end insert-

"( ) under provision made by regulations under paragraph 9A of that Schedule (regulations about payments by billing authorities to major precepting authorities out of deductions from the central share),"

85: Schedule 3, page 56, line 35, after "authorities)," insert-

"( ) under provision made by regulations under paragraph 39A of that Schedule (payments by Secretary of State following estimates of amounts relating to designated areas or classes),"

86: Schedule 3, page 56, line 35, at end insert-

"( ) In subsection (2)(b), after "major precepting authority" insert "or the Secretary of State"."

87: Schedule 3, page 57, line 11, at end insert-

"( ) under provision made by regulations under paragraph 9A of that Schedule (regulations about payments by billing authorities to major precepting authorities out of deductions from the central share),"

88: Schedule 3, page 57, line 19, at end insert-

"( ) under provision made by regulations under paragraph 39A of that Schedule (payments to Secretary of State following estimates of amounts relating to designated areas or classes),"."

89: Schedule 3, page 57, line 31, at end insert-

"(2B) The Secretary of State may by regulations make provision requiring a billing authority to transfer from its general fund to its collection fund such amounts as may be specified in or determined in accordance with the regulations by reference to sums received by the authority in respect of non-domestic rates under this Act.""

90: Schedule 3, page 57, line 34, leave out "", (3) or (4A)" substitute "or (3)"" and insert ""97(1), (3) or (4A) above" substitute "97(1) or (3) or regulations under section 97(2A) above""

91: Schedule 3, page 57, line 34, at end insert-

( ) In subsection (1)(c), after "97(2) or (4) above" insert "or regulations under section 97(2B) above".

( ) In subsection (3)-

(a) in paragraph (b)(i), for "major precepting authorities" substitute "one or more relevant authorities",

(b) in paragraph (c), for "any major precepting authorities" substitute "prescribed relevant authorities",

(c) in each of paragraphs (d) and (f), for "major precepting authority" substitute "relevant authority"."

92: Schedule 3, page 57, line 35, at end insert-

"( ) Before subsection (4) insert-

"(3C) In subsection (3) "relevant authority" means-

(a) a major precepting authority, or

(b) the Secretary of State.

(3D) Regulations under subsection (3) may make separate provision in relation to council tax and non-domestic rates, with the effect that-

(a) more than one estimate is to be made by a billing authority of whether there is a deficit or surplus in its collection fund for a financial year and, if so, of the amount of the deficit or surplus,

(b) each estimate takes into account different amounts to be paid into or met from that fund, and

(c) each estimate has different consequences as to the payments to be made, or other functions to be exercised, by the billing authority, major precepting authorities or the Secretary of State.""

93: Schedule 3, page 57, line 42, at end insert ""regulations under section 99(3) above,"

94: Schedule 3, page 57, line 46, after "Schedule," insert "regulations made under paragraph 39A of that Schedule,"

95: Schedule 3, page 58, line 1, at end insert ""regulations under section 99(3) above,"

96: Schedule 3, page 58, line 5, after "Schedule," insert "regulations made under paragraph 39A of that Schedule,"

97: Schedule 3, page 58, line 14, leave out from "etc)" to end of line 21 and insert "-

( ) at the end of paragraph (b) insert "or", and

( ) omit paragraph (c) and the "or" at the end of that paragraph (which provides for certification of calculations under Schedule 8 to the LGFA 1988)."

Amendments 83 to 97 agreed.

Amendment 98 had been withdrawn from the Marshalled List.

Amendment 98A (In substitution for Amendment 98)

Moved by Lord McKenzie of Luton

98A: Before Clause 9, insert the following new Clause-

"Council tax benefit scheme

Nothing in this Act shall prevent billing authorities retaining the provisions of the existing national council tax benefit scheme, such schemes to be fully funded by the Secretary of State."

Debate in Parliament | Source |

Party Summary

Votes by party, red entries are votes against the majority for that party.

What is Tell? '+1 tell' means that in addition one member of that party was a teller for that division lobby.

What is Turnout? This is measured against the total membership of the party at the time of the vote.

PartyMajority (Not-Content)Minority (Content)Turnout
Bishop0 27.7%
Con138 (+1 tell) 064.1%
Crossbench27 2929.8%
DUP1 025.0%
Independent Labour0 1100.0%
Lab0 156 (+2 tell)69.3%
LDem70 (+1 tell) 076.3%
Other0 116.7%
PC0 150.0%
UKIP1 033.3%
UUP1 150.0%
Total:238 19156.1%

Rebel Voters - sorted by party

Lords for which their vote in this division differed from the majority vote of their party. You can see all votes in this division, or every eligible lord who could have voted in this division

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NamePartyVote
Lord Aberdare Crossbench (front bench)no
Viscount Allenby of MegiddoCrossbenchno
Lord Armstrong of IlminsterCrossbench (front bench)no
Lord Bichard Crossbench (front bench)no
Viscount Craigavon Crossbench (front bench)no
Lord Craig of RadleyCrossbench (front bench)no
Lord Dear Crossbench (front bench)no
Lord Greenway Crossbenchno
Baroness Howe of IdlicoteCrossbenchno
Lord Kakkar Crossbench (front bench)no
Lord Kilclooney Crossbenchno
Lord Laming Crossbench (front bench)no
Lord Luce Crossbenchno
The Earl of LyttonCrossbench (front bench)no
Lord Mawson Crossbench (front bench)no
Baroness Murphy Crossbenchno
Baroness O'Loan Crossbench (front bench)no
Lord Palmer Crossbench (front bench)no
Lord Pannick Crossbench (front bench)no
Lord Patel Crossbench (front bench)no
Lord Quirk Crossbench (front bench)no
Lord Rowe-Beddoe Crossbench (front bench)no
Viscount Slim Crossbenchno
Lord St John of BletsoCrossbench (front bench)no
Lord Sutherland of HoundwoodCrossbenchno
Viscount Tenby Crossbenchno
Baroness Warnock Crossbenchno
Viscount Falkland LDemaye
Baroness Tonge LDemaye

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