Sexual Offences Bill [Lords] — New Clause 4 — Anonymity Of Suspects And Defendants In Certain Cases (No.2) — 3 Nov 2003 at 18:00

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

This issue took up a considerable amount of time in Committee, and we need to consider it further before the Bill returns to another place. As the House will be aware, the Bill came from the Lords with an amendment, made against the Government's wishes, that would have ensured anonymity for those alleged to have committed rape and other offences right up to conviction and throughout the trial process. That was debated in Committee, where the Government argued forcefully that such a blanket prohibition on reporting might interfere with the interests of justice after charge and during the trial process, and that victims might not come forward if, while the police were attempting to identify other potential victims, they did not know that somebody had been charged with an offence. I fully accept the Government's second argument that anonymity went against the general principle that the trial process should take place in public, with the public being made aware of the identity of the person on trial.

Question put, That the clause be read a Second time:-

The House divided: Ayes 158, Noes 276.

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David KidneyStaffordLabno
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Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno
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Mr George StevensonStoke-on-Trent SouthLabno
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Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldConaye
Mr Donald AndersonSwansea EastLab (minister)no
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George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)tellaye
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Mr Peter BradleyThe WrekinLabno
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John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye
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Anthony SteenTotnesConaye
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Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)aye
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Alan CampbellTynemouthLabno
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Angela EagleWallaseyLab (minister)no
David WinnickWalsall NorthLab (minister)no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLabno
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John SpellarWarleyLab (minister)no
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Claire WardWatfordLabno
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Mike HallWeaver ValeLabno
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Michael SpicerWest WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye
Mr Tim CollinsWestmorland and LonsdaleConaye
Mr Brian CotterWeston-Super-MareLDem (front bench)aye
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Mark OatenWinchesterLDemaye
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLabno
Stephen HesfordWirral WestLabno
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)aye
John RedwoodWokinghamConaye
Ken PurchaseWolverhampton North EastLabno
Mr Dennis TurnerWolverhampton South EastLab (minister)no
Rob MarrisWolverhampton South WestLab (minister)no
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)aye
Michael FosterWorcesterLabno
Tony CunninghamWorkingtonLab (minister)no
Mr Terry LewisWorsleyLabno
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)aye
Ian LucasWrexhamLab (minister)no
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Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependentaye
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)no
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)aye
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)no

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