Children Bill [Lords] — New Clause 12 — Reasonable punishment — 2 Nov 2004 at 17:45

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

Question put, That the clause be read a Second time:-

Those voting Aye in this division were seeking to outlaw reasonable chastisement (e.g. gentle smacking) of children.

The House divided: Ayes 75, Noes 424.

Debate in Parliament | Historical Hansard | Source |

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Party Summary

Votes by party, red entries are votes against the majority for that party.

What is Tell? '+1 tell' means that in addition one member of that party was a teller for that division lobby.

What are Boths? An MP can vote both aye and no in the same division. The boths page explains this.

What is Turnout? This is measured against the total membership of the party at the time of the vote.

PartyMajority (No)Minority (Aye)BothTurnout
Con133 0081.6%
DUP4 0066.7%
Lab264 (+2 tell) 47 (+2 tell)077.4%
LDem18 25078.2%
PC0 3075.0%
UUP4 0080.0%
Total:423 75078.4%

Rebel Voters - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote in this division differed from the majority vote of their party. You can see all votes in this division, or every eligible MP who could have voted in this division

Sort by: Name | Constituency | Party | Vote

NameConstituencyPartyVote
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye
Sandra OsborneAyrLab (minister)aye
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLabaye
Mr Llew SmithBlaenau GwentLabaye
Dennis SkinnerBolsoverLab (minister)aye
Mr Win GriffithsBridgendLab (minister)tellaye
Desmond TurnerBrighton, KemptownLab (minister)aye
Doug NaysmithBristol North WestLab (minister)aye
Mrs Valerie DaveyBristol WestLab (minister)aye
David ChaytorBury NorthLab (minister)aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)no
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLab (minister)aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLab (minister)aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)no
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye
Mr Brian SedgemoreHackney South and ShoreditchLabaye
Mrs Alice MahonHalifaxLabaye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye
Mr Phil SawfordKetteringLabaye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)no
Roger BerryKingswoodLab (minister)aye
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)aye
Mr Hilton DawsonLancaster and WyreLab (minister)tellaye
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)aye
Mr Harold BestLeeds North WestLab (minister)aye
Norman BakerLewesLDemno
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLabaye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West DerbyLabaye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLabaye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)no
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)no
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)no
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye
Mr Martin O'NeillOchilLab (minister)aye
Mr Tony ColmanPutneyLab (minister)aye
Kevin BarronRother ValleyLab (minister)aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)no
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)no
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)no
Mr Kerry PollardSt AlbansLab (minister)aye
Ms Debra ShipleyStourbridgeLab (minister)aye
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye
Michael MooreTweeddale, Ettrick and LauderdaleLDem (front bench)no
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)no
Mr David HinchliffeWakefieldLab (minister)aye
Mr Paul StinchcombeWellingboroughLab (minister)aye
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)no
Mr Brian CotterWeston-Super-MareLDem (front bench)no
Mark OatenWinchesterLDem (front bench)no
Ken PurchaseWolverhampton North EastLabaye
Mr Terry LewisWorsleyLabaye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)no
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)aye

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