Comparison of Divisions: Terrorism Bill — Clause 1(2) — Encouragement of Terrorism — "glorifies" — 9 Nov 2005 at 20:00 with Division No. 75 on 2 Nov 2005 at 15:57

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) : Terrorism Bill — Clause 1(2) — Encouragement of Terrorism — "glorifies" - 9 Nov 2005 at 20:00 - Division No. 87

This appears identical to Division 75 on 2005-11-02. A comparison of votes can be seen here.

Those voting Aye wished to delete subsection (2) of Clause 1 of the Terrorism Bill.

Subsection (2) says:

...[S]tatements that are likely to be understood by members of the public as indirectly encouraging... acts of terrorism... include every statement which-
(a) glorifies the commission or preparation (whether in the past, in the future or generally) of such acts or offences; and
(b) is a statement from which those members of the public could reasonably be expected to infer that what is being glorified is being glorified as conduct that should be emulated in existing circumstances.

This is a clarification of subsection (1) which asserts that direct and indirect encouragement of terrorism is an offence.

Vote (b) : Terrorism Bill — Clause 1(2) — Offence of Glorifying Terrorism - 2 Nov 2005 at 15:57 - Division No. 75

The majority of MPs voted to make glorifying the commission or preparation of acts of terrorism an offense.

Those voting Aye wished to delete subsection (2) of Clause 1 of the Terrorism Bill

Subsection (2) says:

  • ...[S]tatements that are likely to be understood by members of the public as indirectly encouraging... acts of terrorism... include every statement which-
  • (a) glorifies the commission or preparation (whether in the past, in the future or generally) of such acts or offences; and
  • (b) is a statement from which those members of the public could reasonably be expected to infer that what is being glorified is being glorified as conduct that should be emulated in existing circumstances.
  • This provision interprets subsection (1) which asserts that both direct and indirect encouragement of terrorism is an offence.
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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthConaye absent
Simon BurnsWest ChelmsfordCon (front bench)aye absent
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)aye absent
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)aye absent
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)aye absent
Ed VaizeyWantageConaye absent
Angela WatkinsonUpminsterCon (front bench)aye absent
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)aye absent
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)aye absent
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)absent aye
John GreenwayRyedaleConabsent aye
Mark HobanFarehamConabsent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew SelousSouth West BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)no aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)no aye
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)no aye
Jon TrickettHemsworthLab (minister)no aye
Colin BurgonElmetLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Ann KeenBrentford and IsleworthLabno absent
Tony LloydManchester CentralLabno absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLabno absent
Chris MullinSunderland SouthLabno absent
Helen SouthworthWarrington SouthLab (minister)no absent
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)no absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)absent aye
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)absent aye
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)absent aye
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLab (minister)absent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLababsent aye
Gordon PrenticePendleLab (minister)absent aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLababsent aye
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Tony BlairSedgefieldLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)absent no
David DrewStroudLab (minister)absent no
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)absent no
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLab (minister)absent no
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLab (minister)absent no
Sally KeebleNorthampton NorthLab (minister)absent no
Rob MarrisWolverhampton South WestLab (minister)absent no
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)absent no
Ian PearsonDudley SouthLab (minister)absent no
Christine RussellCity of ChesterLab (minister)absent no
Barry SheermanHuddersfieldLab (minister)absent no
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLababsent no
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Desmond TurnerBrighton, KemptownLab (minister)absent no
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDem (front bench)absent aye
George GallowayBethnal Green and BowRespectaye absent
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)aye absent
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)aye absent
Eddie McGradySouth DownSDLPaye absent

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 556 voted the same way, with 7 voting in opposite ways. There were 22 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 61 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
556
(556 + 7 + 0.2x61)
=
556
575.2
= 0.967 = 96.7 %.


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