Comparison of Divisions: Local Taxation — 4 Jul 2005 at 18:59 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) (unedited): Local Taxation - 4 Jul 2005 at 18:59 - Division No. 26

Question accordingly negatived.

Question, That the proposed words be there added, put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments):-

The House divided: Ayes 287, Noes 183.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthConno absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestConno absent
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Conno absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyCon (front bench)no absent
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)no absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireConno absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Michael JackFyldeConno absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveConno absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireConno absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireConno absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conno absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Conno absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetCon (front bench)no absent
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastConabsent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul GoodmanWycombeCon (front bench)absent aye
Damian GreenAshfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark HarperForest of DeanConabsent aye
Nick HerbertArundel and South DownsCon (front bench)absent aye
Adam HollowayGraveshamConabsent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Stewart JacksonPeterboroughConabsent aye
Robert KeySalisburyConabsent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)absent aye
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
John RandallUxbridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
Laurence RobertsonTewkesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew RosindellRomfordCon (front bench)absent aye
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexConabsent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael SpicerWest WorcestershireCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Jeremy WrightRugby and KenilworthConabsent aye
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)no absent
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter LawBlaenau GwentIndependentaye absent
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independentabsent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLabaye aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLabaye aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)aye aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLabaye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabaye aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabaye aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLabaye aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLabaye aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLabaye aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLabaye aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLabaye both
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLabaye absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabaye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLabaye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLabaye absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLabaye absent
Robin CookLivingstonLabaye absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLab (minister)aye absent
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLabaye absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLabaye absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabaye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLabaye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLabaye absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLabaye absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLabaye absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLabaye absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLabaye absent
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLabaye absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLabaye absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLabaye absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)aye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabaye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLabaye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLabaye absent
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabaye absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)aye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLabaye absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLabaye absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLabaye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)aye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLabaye absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Martin SalterReading WestLabaye absent
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Labaye absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLabaye absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLabaye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLabaye absent
Neil TurnerWiganLabaye absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labaye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLabaye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLababsent aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLababsent aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLababsent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
Paul ClarkGillinghamLababsent no
Tom ClarkeCoatbridge, Chryston and BellshillLababsent no
Rosie CooperWest LancashireLab (minister)absent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Jim DevineLivingstonLababsent no
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLababsent no
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
Bruce GeorgeWalsall SouthLababsent no
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
David HansonDelynLab (minister)absent no
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
John HealeyWentworthLab (minister)absent no
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Sally KeebleNorthampton NorthLababsent no
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)absent no
Stephen LadymanSouth ThanetLab (minister)absent no
Tony LloydManchester CentralLababsent no
Steve McCabeBirmingham, Hall GreenLababsent no
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
Gillian MerronLincolnLab (minister)absent no
Alun MichaelCardiff South and PenarthLab (minister)absent no
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLababsent no
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
Denis MurphyWansbeckLababsent no
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)absent no
Ian PearsonDudley SouthLab (minister)absent no
James PurnellStalybridge and HydeLab (minister)absent no
Geoffrey RobinsonCoventry North WestLababsent no
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLababsent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLababsent no
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Dari TaylorStockton SouthLababsent no
Kitty UssherBurnleyLababsent no
Michael WillsNorth SwindonLababsent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)no absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDemabsent aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDemabsent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDemabsent aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)absent aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)absent aye
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDemabsent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)absent aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDemabsent aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemabsent aye
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDem (front bench)absent aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDemabsent aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 22 voted the same way, with 362 voting in opposite ways. There were 50 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 211 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
362
(362 + 22 + 0.2x211)
=
362
426.2
= 0.849 = 84.9 %.


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