Comparison of Divisions: Government Regulation — 4 Jul 2005 at 21:50 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) (unedited): Government Regulation - 4 Jul 2005 at 21:50 - Division No. 27

I beg to move,

That this House draws attention to the escalating cost of regulation and the increasing number of cases where regulation either achieves nothing or does positive harm to those being regulated; urges the Government to produce a deregulation Bill which goes beyond exhortation to better regulation by repealing unnecessary and burdensome laws and rules; encourages the Government to table a programme for the UK Presidency of lesser and better regulation for the EU as a whole; and asks the Government to bring forward proposals which free professionals in hospitals and schools, which cut the costs of controls over elected local government, and allow business in the UK to compete more successfully against Asian and American competitors.

I beg to move, To leave out from "House" to the end of the Question, and to add instead thereof:

"welcomes the steps the Government is taking to remove unnecessary regulations and rationalise inspection arrangements in both the public and private sectors; acknowledges the additional freedoms given to high performing schools, hospitals and local councils; notes the lead the Government has taken in driving forward the better regulation agenda in Europe; recognises the benefits that well-targeted and proportionate regulation can bring in driving up standards; and further notes that the UK is seen by international observers as a leader in the field of regulatory reform and that the success of the UK economy reflects the approach the Government has taken.".

Question put, That the original words stand part of the Question:-

The House divided: Ayes 198, Noes 313.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthConaye absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestConaye absent
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Conaye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)aye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyCon (front bench)aye absent
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)aye absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireConaye absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonConaye absent
Michael JackFyldeConaye absent
Boris JohnsonHenleyConaye absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveConaye absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireConaye absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireConaye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conaye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Conaye absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard BenyonNewburyConabsent aye
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastConabsent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark HarperForest of DeanConabsent aye
Adam HollowayGraveshamConabsent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Stewart JacksonPeterboroughConabsent aye
Robert KeySalisburyConabsent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
John RandallUxbridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
Laurence RobertsonTewkesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew RosindellRomfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Jeremy WrightRugby and KenilworthConabsent aye
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)aye absent
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLabno aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLabno aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLabno aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabno aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabno aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLabno aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLabno aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLabno aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLabno aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLabno both
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLabno absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabno absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLabno absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLabno absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLabno absent
Robin CookLivingstonLabno absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLab (minister)no absent
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLabno absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLabno absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabno absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLabno absent
Patrick HallBedfordLabno absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLabno absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLabno absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLabno absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLabno absent
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLabno absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLabno absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLabno absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)no absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLabno absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLabno absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLabno absent
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)no absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabno absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLabno absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLabno absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLabno absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLabno absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLabno absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Martin SalterReading WestLabno absent
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Labno absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLabno absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLabno absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLabno absent
Neil TurnerWiganLabno absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLabno absent
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLababsent aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLababsent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
Yvette CooperPontefract and CastlefordLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Jim DevineLivingstonLababsent no
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
Barbara FollettStevenageLababsent no
Bruce GeorgeWalsall SouthLababsent no
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
David HansonDelynLab (minister)absent no
John HealeyWentworthLab (minister)absent no
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Stephen LadymanSouth ThanetLab (minister)absent no
Tony LloydManchester CentralLababsent no
Steve McCabeBirmingham, Hall GreenLababsent no
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
Gillian MerronLincolnLab (minister)absent no
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLababsent no
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)absent no
Ian PearsonDudley SouthLab (minister)absent no
James PurnellStalybridge and HydeLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Kitty UssherBurnleyLababsent no
Michael WillsNorth SwindonLababsent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDemabsent aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDemabsent aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)absent aye
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDemabsent aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)absent aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)absent aye
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDemabsent aye
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemabsent aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDem (front bench)absent aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDemabsent aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)no aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)no aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)no aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)no aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 388 voted the same way, with 28 voting in opposite ways. There were 42 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 187 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
388
(388 + 28 + 0.2x187)
=
388
453.4
= 0.856 = 85.6 %.


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