Comparison of Divisions: Government Regulation — 4 Jul 2005 at 21:59 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Government Regulation - 4 Jul 2005 at 21:59 - Division No. 28

Question accordingly negatived.

Question, That the proposed words be there added, put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments):-

The House divided: Ayes 304, Noes 203.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLabaye absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLabaye absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLabaye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLabaye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLabaye absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)aye aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Steve McCabeBirmingham, Hall GreenLababsent no
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Labaye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabaye absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLabaye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDemabsent aye
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLabaye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabaye aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabaye absent
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestConno absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLabaye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)no absent
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveConno absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLabaye aye
Kitty UssherBurnleyLababsent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLababsent aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Conno absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independentabsent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabaye aye
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLabaye absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLabaye absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLabaye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conno absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Jon CruddasDagenhamLab (minister)aye absent
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
David HansonDelynLab (minister)absent no
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabaye absent
Ian PearsonDudley SouthLab (minister)absent no
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemabsent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLabaye absent
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireConno absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLabaye absent
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)absent aye
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDemabsent aye
Colin BurgonElmetLabaye absent
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLabaye absent
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye absent
Mark HarperForest of DeanConabsent aye
Michael JackFyldeConno absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLabaye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)aye absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDemabsent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Adam HollowayGraveshamConabsent aye
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)aye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLabaye absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLabaye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLabaye aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDemabsent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDem (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Boris JohnsonHenleyConno absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)absent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLabaye absent
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLabaye absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLabaye aye
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLabaye aye
Gillian MerronLincolnLab (minister)absent no
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labaye absent
Robin CookLivingstonLabaye absent
Jim DevineLivingstonLababsent no
Andy ReedLoughboroughLabaye aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLababsent no
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
Tony LloydManchester CentralLababsent no
Alan MealeMansfieldLabaye absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLabaye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Richard BenyonNewburyConabsent aye
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLabaye absent
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Robert WalterNorth DorsetCon (front bench)no absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireConno absent
Michael WillsNorth SwindonLababsent no
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLabaye both
James GrayNorth WiltshireConno absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthConno absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabaye absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Conno absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
John HoramOrpingtonConno absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDemabsent aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Stewart JacksonPeterboroughConabsent aye
Yvette CooperPontefract and CastlefordLab (minister)absent no
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLabaye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyCon (front bench)no absent
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastConabsent aye
Andrew RosindellRomfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Jeremy WrightRugby and KenilworthConabsent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Robert KeySalisburyConabsent aye
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLab (minister)absent no
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLabaye absent
Fiona MactaggartSloughLab (minister)absent no
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)absent aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLabaye absent
Stephen LadymanSouth ThanetLab (minister)absent no
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)absent aye
James PurnellStalybridge and HydeLab (minister)absent no
Barbara FollettStevenageLababsent no
Frank CookStockton NorthLabaye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLabaye absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Laurence RobertsonTewkesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLababsent aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
John RandallUxbridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)aye aye
Bruce GeorgeWalsall SouthLababsent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLabaye aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLabaye absent
John HealeyWentworthLab (minister)absent no
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Neil TurnerWiganLabaye absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)absent no

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 25 voted the same way, with 389 voting in opposite ways. There were 43 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 188 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
389
(389 + 25 + 0.2x188)
=
389
451.6
= 0.861 = 86.1 %.


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