Comparison of Divisions: Finance Bill — New Clause 4 — Tax Law Commission — 6 Jul 2005 at 14:45 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : Finance Bill — New Clause 4 — Tax Law Commission - 6 Jul 2005 at 14:45 - Division No. 31

The issue in this division was whether to put forward a new clause for the Finance Bill, which enacts the budget provisions. The new clause, which was proposed by the Conservative front bench, would have required the Treasury to set up a commission to examine the tax laws and report on how they could be simplified.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Hywel FrancisAberavonLab (minister)absent no
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)no absent
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLabno absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)no aye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Alex SalmondBanff and BuchanSNP (front bench)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLabno absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLabno absent
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Angela SmithBasildonLab (minister)absent no
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLabno absent
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick HallBedfordLabno absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)no aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessConabsent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Steve McCabeBirmingham, Hall GreenLababsent no
Liam ByrneBirmingham, Hodge HillLab (minister)absent no
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Labno absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLabno absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLabno aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabno aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabno absent
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLababsent no
Marsha SinghBradford WestLabno absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)absent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Madeleine MoonBridgendLababsent no
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)aye absent
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveConaye absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLabno aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Kitty UssherBurnleyLababsent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)no aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLabno aye
Alun MichaelCardiff South and PenarthLab (minister)absent no
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)no aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Conaye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independentabsent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabno aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLabno absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLabno absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLabno absent
Bob AinsworthCoventry North EastLab (minister)absent no
Geoffrey RobinsonCoventry North WestLababsent no
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLabno absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLabno absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Jon CruddasDagenhamLab (minister)no absent
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Caroline FlintDon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabno absent
Ian PearsonDudley SouthLab (minister)absent no
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemabsent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLabno absent
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireConaye absent
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Anne MoffatEast LothianLabno absent
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Clive EffordElthamLab (minister)absent no
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLabno absent
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael JackFyldeConaye absent
Paul ClarkGillinghamLababsent no
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLababsent no
David MarshallGlasgow EastLabno absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)absent no
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Peter ViggersGosportConabsent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Adam HollowayGraveshamConabsent aye
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLabno absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLabno absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLabno aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Gareth ThomasHarrow WestLab (minister)absent no
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Paul KeetchHerefordLDemaye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Peter AtkinsonHexhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Barry SheermanHuddersfieldLab (minister)absent no
Jonathan DjanoglyHuntingdonCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLabno absent
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaCon (front bench)absent aye
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)no absent
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLabno absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLabno aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLabno aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Robin CookLivingstonLabno absent
Jim DevineLivingstonLababsent no
Nia GriffithLlanelliLab (minister)absent no
Andy ReedLoughboroughLabno aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldConabsent aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Alan MealeMansfieldLabno absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)no aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexConabsent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Siobhain McDonaghMitcham and MordenLab (minister)absent no
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)no aye
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLababsent no
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard BenyonNewburyConabsent aye
Nick BrownNewcastle upon Tyne East and WallsendLababsent no
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLabno absent
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Robert WalterNorth DorsetCon (front bench)aye absent
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireConaye absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Mike O'BrienNorth WarwickshireLab (minister)absent no
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLababsent both
Henry BellinghamNorth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabno absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Gordon BanksOchil and South PerthshireLababsent no
Huw Irranca-DaviesOgmoreLab (minister)absent no
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Conaye absent
Phil WoolasOldham East and SaddleworthLab (minister)absent no
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonConaye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLababsent aye
Jim SheridanPaisley and Renfrewshire NorthLab (minister)absent no
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Jim FitzpatrickPoplar and Canning TownLab (minister)absent no
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Martin SalterReading WestLabno absent
Vera BairdRedcarLababsent no
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyCon (front bench)aye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDem (front bench)aye absent
Jeremy WrightRugby and KenilworthConabsent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
Robert KeySalisburyConabsent aye
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLab (minister)absent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLab (minister)absent no
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLabno absent
David CurrySkipton and RiponConabsent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Jim KnightSouth DorsetLab (minister)absent no
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)no absent
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLabno absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Barbara FollettStevenageLababsent no
Ann CoffeyStockportLababsent no
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Chris MullinSunderland SouthLababsent no
Siân JamesSwansea EastLabno absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLabno aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Geoffrey CoxTorridge and West DevonConabsent aye
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)no aye
Bruce GeorgeWalsall SouthLababsent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLabno aye
Ed VaizeyWantageConabsent aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLabno absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Lyn BrownWest HamLababsent no
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareConabsent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLabno absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDem (front bench)aye absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
John RedwoodWokinghamConabsent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 361 voted the same way, with 31 voting in opposite ways. There were 46 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 207 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
361
(361 + 31 + 0.2x207)
=
361
433.4
= 0.833 = 83.3 %.


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