Comparison of Divisions: Terrorism Bill — Clause 1(2) — Encouragement of Terrorism — "glorifies" — 9 Nov 2005 at 20:00 with Division No. 75 on 2 Nov 2005 at 15:57

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) : Terrorism Bill — Clause 1(2) — Encouragement of Terrorism — "glorifies" - 9 Nov 2005 at 20:00 - Division No. 87

This appears identical to Division 75 on 2005-11-02. A comparison of votes can be seen here.

Those voting Aye wished to delete subsection (2) of Clause 1 of the Terrorism Bill.

Subsection (2) says:

...[S]tatements that are likely to be understood by members of the public as indirectly encouraging... acts of terrorism... include every statement which-
(a) glorifies the commission or preparation (whether in the past, in the future or generally) of such acts or offences; and
(b) is a statement from which those members of the public could reasonably be expected to infer that what is being glorified is being glorified as conduct that should be emulated in existing circumstances.

This is a clarification of subsection (1) which asserts that direct and indirect encouragement of terrorism is an offence.

Vote (b) : Terrorism Bill — Clause 1(2) — Offence of Glorifying Terrorism - 2 Nov 2005 at 15:57 - Division No. 75

The majority of MPs voted to make glorifying the commission or preparation of acts of terrorism an offense.

Those voting Aye wished to delete subsection (2) of Clause 1 of the Terrorism Bill

Subsection (2) says:

  • ...[S]tatements that are likely to be understood by members of the public as indirectly encouraging... acts of terrorism... include every statement which-
  • (a) glorifies the commission or preparation (whether in the past, in the future or generally) of such acts or offences; and
  • (b) is a statement from which those members of the public could reasonably be expected to infer that what is being glorified is being glorified as conduct that should be emulated in existing circumstances.
  • This provision interprets subsection (1) which asserts that both direct and indirect encouragement of terrorism is an offence.
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Difference in Votes - sorted by name

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

Sort by: Name | Constituency | Party | Vote (a) | Vote (b)

NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)aye absent
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)absent aye
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthConaye absent
Tony BlairSedgefieldLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)absent aye
Colin BurgonElmetLab (minister)no absent
Simon BurnsWest ChelmsfordCon (front bench)aye absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)absent no
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no absent
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)absent aye
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLab (minister)absent aye
David DrewStroudLab (minister)absent no
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)aye absent
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)aye absent
George GallowayBethnal Green and BowRespectaye absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
John GreenwayRyedaleConabsent aye
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)no aye
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)absent no
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLab (minister)absent no
Mark HobanFarehamConabsent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLab (minister)absent no
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)aye absent
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)absent aye
Sally KeebleNorthampton NorthLab (minister)absent no
Ann KeenBrentford and IsleworthLabno absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLababsent aye
Tony LloydManchester CentralLabno absent
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)no aye
Rob MarrisWolverhampton South WestLab (minister)absent no
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)aye absent
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)absent no
Eddie McGradySouth DownSDLPaye absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLabno absent
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)no aye
Chris MullinSunderland SouthLabno absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ian PearsonDudley SouthLab (minister)absent no
Gordon PrenticePendleLab (minister)absent aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLababsent aye
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)aye absent
Christine RussellCity of ChesterLab (minister)absent no
Andrew SelousSouth West BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Barry SheermanHuddersfieldLab (minister)absent no
Helen SouthworthWarrington SouthLab (minister)no absent
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)no absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLababsent no
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Jon TrickettHemsworthLab (minister)no aye
Desmond TurnerBrighton, KemptownLab (minister)absent no
Ed VaizeyWantageConaye absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Angela WatkinsonUpminsterCon (front bench)aye absent
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)aye absent
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)aye absent

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 556 voted the same way, with 7 voting in opposite ways. There were 22 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 61 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
556
(556 + 7 + 0.2x61)
=
556
575.2
= 0.967 = 96.7 %.


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