Comparison of Divisions: Government of Wales Bill — [1st Allotted Day] — Clause 92 — Assembly measures — 23 Jan 2006 at 19:45 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Government of Wales Bill — [1st Allotted Day] — Clause 92 — Assembly measures - 23 Jan 2006 at 19:45 - Division No. 136

I beg to move amendment No. 48, in page 50, line 9, at end insert-

'(2A) No Assembly Measure may be introduced unless a majority of voters in a referendum vote in favour of Assembly Measure provisions coming into force.'.

Question put, That the amendment be made:-

The Committee divided: Ayes 136, Noes 304.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Anne BeggAberdeen SouthLab (minister)absent no
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)no aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
Damian GreenAshfordCon (front bench)absent aye
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
Angela SmithBasildonLab (minister)absent no
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)no aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabno aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)no aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)no aye
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)absent aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)absent aye
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Steve McCabeBirmingham, Hall GreenLab (minister)absent no
Liam ByrneBirmingham, Hodge HillLab (minister)absent no
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Peter LawBlaenau GwentIndependentaye absent
David AndersonBlaydonLab (minister)absent no
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)absent no
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)absent aye
Gerry SutcliffeBradford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Brooks NewmarkBraintreeCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)no aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)tellno aye
Kerry McCarthyBristol EastLab (minister)absent no
Dawn PrimaroloBristol SouthLab (minister)absent no
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)no aye
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)aye absent
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)no aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)no aye
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)absent no
Julian BrazierCanterburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)no aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)no aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)no aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)no aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)no aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)no aye
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)no aye
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conaye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)absent no
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
David HansonDelynLab (minister)absent no
Bob LaxtonDerby NorthLababsent no
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Shahid MalikDewsburyLab (minister)absent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLabno absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemabsent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)no absent
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLab (minister)absent no
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ian StewartEcclesLab (minister)absent no
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Mark LazarowiczEdinburgh North and LeithLababsent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)no aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)no aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Ann McKechinGlasgow NorthLab (minister)absent no
Tom HarrisGlasgow SouthLab (minister)absent no
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Derek TwiggHaltonLab (minister)absent no
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)no aye
Tony McNultyHarrow EastLab (minister)absent no
Douglas CarswellHarwichCon (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDem (front bench)no aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)no aye
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)no aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Don TouhigIslwynLab (minister)absent no
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)absent aye
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)no absent
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLabno aye
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Jim DevineLivingstonLababsent no
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)absent aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdCon (front bench)absent aye
Tony LloydManchester CentralLababsent no
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)no aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)no aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)absent no
Siobhain McDonaghMitcham and MordenLab (minister)absent no
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)no aye
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLababsent no
Frank RoyMotherwell and WishawLab (minister)absent no
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)no tellaye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)no aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)no aye
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)no aye
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLab (minister)absent no
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)no aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Gordon BanksOchil and South PerthshireLab (minister)absent no
Huw Irranca-DaviesOgmoreLab (minister)absent no
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)no aye
Linda GilroyPlymouth, SuttonLab (minister)absent no
Yvette CooperPontefract and CastlefordLab (minister)absent no
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Jim FitzpatrickPoplar and Canning TownLab (minister)absent no
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Martin SalterReading WestLabno absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)no aye
Nick HurdRuislip - NorthwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLab (minister)absent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)absent no
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)no absent
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)no aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)no aye
Mark ToddSouth DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)no absent
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Stephen LadymanSouth ThanetLab (minister)absent no
David GaukeSouth West HertfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)absent no
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)no aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)absent aye
James PurnellStalybridge and HydeLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)no aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Alan WilliamsSwansea WestLab (minister)absent no
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)no aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Adrian SandersTorbayLDemno aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Angela WatkinsonUpminsterCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne McIntoshVale of YorkCon (front bench)absent aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLabno aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Bob BlizzardWaveneyLab (minister)absent no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tom WatsonWest Bromwich EastLab (minister)absent no
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)absent aye
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)absent no
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)no aye
Stephen HesfordWirral WestLab (minister)absent no
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)no aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye
Albert OwenYnys MônLababsent no

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 308 voted the same way, with 66 voting in opposite ways. There were 69 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 202 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
308
(308 + 66 + 0.2x202)
=
308
414.4
= 0.743 = 74.3 %.


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