Comparison of Divisions: Opposition Day — [15th Allotted Day] — Management of the National Health Service — 9 May 2006 at 21:45 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Opposition Day — [15th Allotted Day] — Management of the National Health Service - 9 May 2006 at 21:45 - Division No. 225

I beg to move,

That this House notes the current financial crisis and associated job losses, ward and bed closures and service reductions in the NHS; believes that these are consequences primarily of the failures of management at the Department of Health; further notes the Secretary of State for Health's denial of responsibility for this situation and her failure to recognise the realities within the NHS; sees a lack of leadership within the Department of Health; and, in addition to turnaround teams in NHS Trusts, calls on the Government to appoint a turnaround team to the Department of Health.

I beg to move, to leave out from "House" to the end of the Question, and to add instead thereof:

"recognises the effective leadership given by the Department of Health in managing the NHS; acknowledges that the majority of NHS organisations are living within their budget and providing patients with better services; welcomes the turnaround in the NHS since 1997 as a result of the dedication and commitment of staff, backed by the Government's programme of investment and reform; congratulates the Government for trebling investment in the NHS by 2008 compared with 1997; welcomes the recruitment of more than 300,000 extra staff in the NHS since 1997 including 85,000 more nurses; notes that waiting lists are now at their lowest since records began with over 370,000 fewer patients waiting for an operation than in March 1997; further welcomes the fact that all patients can now expect to wait no longer than six months for their operation and that 98 per cent. of patients are now seen, treated or admitted within four hours in accident and emergency departments; and applauds the NHS for saving more lives than ever before. Including 43,000 more people saved from cancer and 87,000 saved from coronary heart disease."

Question put accordingly, That the original words stand part of the Question:-

The House divided: Ayes 236, Noes 309.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)aye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Boris JohnsonHenleyCon (front bench)aye absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conaye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)absent aye
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MainSt AlbansCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)absent aye
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPaye absent
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLabno aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLabno aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabno aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLabno absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLab (minister)no absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)no absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabno absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)no absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)no absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLab (minister)no absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)no absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)no absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Martin SalterReading WestLabno absent
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Labno absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)absent aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)absent aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)absent aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Vera BairdRedcarLab (minister)absent no
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Anne BeggAberdeen SouthLab (minister)absent no
Kevin BrennanCardiff WestLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLab (minister)absent no
Michael Jabez FosterHastings and RyeLab (minister)absent no
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Jane KennedyLiverpool, WavertreeLababsent no
Sadiq KhanTootingLab (minister)absent no
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Siôn SimonBirmingham, ErdingtonLababsent no
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLababsent no
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Mark ToddSouth DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
Joan WalleyStoke-on-Trent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Phil WoolasOldham East and SaddleworthLab (minister)absent no
Iain WrightHartlepoolLab (minister)absent no
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Norman BakerLewesLDemabsent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 429 voted the same way, with 22 voting in opposite ways. There were 40 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 154 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
429
(429 + 22 + 0.2x154)
=
429
481.8
= 0.890 = 89.0 %.


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