Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — Schedule 2 — Amendments to the Police Act 1996 — 10 May 2006 at 17:45 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — Schedule 2 — Amendments to the Police Act 1996 - 10 May 2006 at 17:45 - Division No. 229

Question accordingly negatived.

Amendment proposed: No. 14, in page 74, line 11, leave out paragraphs 24 to 26.- [Lynne Featherstone.]

Question put, That the amendment be made:-

The House divided: Ayes 220, Noes 295.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Anne BeggAberdeen SouthLab (minister)absent no
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)no absent
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabno aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)absent aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Brian IddonBolton South EastLab (minister)absent no
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Desmond TurnerBrighton, KemptownLab (minister)absent no
David LepperBrighton, PavilionLab (minister)absent no
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Janet DeanBurtonLab (minister)absent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Kevin BrennanCardiff WestLab (minister)absent no
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conaye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Gwyn ProsserDoverLab (minister)absent no
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)no absent
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Mark LazarowiczEdinburgh North and LeithLababsent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Colin BurgonElmetLab (minister)no absent
Alan KeenFeltham and HestonLab (minister)absent no
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Anne MiltonGuildfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)aye absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tony McNultyHarrow EastLab (minister)absent no
Iain WrightHartlepoolLab (minister)absent no
Michael Jabez FosterHastings and RyeLab (minister)absent no
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Mike PenningHemel HempsteadCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)aye absent
David CairnsInverclydeLab (minister)absent no
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)absent no
Philip HolloboneKetteringCon (front bench)absent aye
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLabno aye
Norman BakerLewesLDemabsent aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)absent aye
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Jane KennedyLiverpool, WavertreeLababsent no
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)no absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLababsent no
Nick BrownNewcastle upon Tyne East and WallsendLababsent no
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConaye absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Kevan JonesNorth DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabno absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLabno absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)tellaye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert GoodwillScarborough and WhitbyCon (front bench)absent aye
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)absent no
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)no absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Mark ToddSouth DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)no absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)absent no
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDemabsent aye
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Dari TaylorStockton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Rob FlelloStoke-on-Trent SouthLab (minister)absent no
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Laurence RobertsonTewkesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)absent aye
Sadiq KhanTootingLab (minister)absent no
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
Chris RuaneVale of ClwydLab (minister)absent no
Kate HoeyVauxhallLababsent aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Denis MurphyWansbeckLababsent no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)absent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 400 voted the same way, with 24 voting in opposite ways. There were 43 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 178 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
400
(400 + 24 + 0.2x178)
=
400
459.6
= 0.870 = 87.0 %.


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