Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — Clause 5 — Standard powers and duties of community support officers — 24 Oct 2006 at 21:15 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — Clause 5 — Standard powers and duties of community support officers - 24 Oct 2006 at 21:15 - Division No. 324

I beg to move amendment (c) to the Lords amendment.

Motion made, and Question put, That this House agrees with the Lords in the said amendment, as amended.- [Mr. McNulty.]

The House divided: Ayes 302, Noes 216.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

Public Whip is run as a free not-for-profit service. If you'd like to support us, please consider switching your (UK) electricity and/or gas to Octopus Energy or tip us via Ko-Fi.

Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

Sort by: Name | Constituency | Party | Vote (a) | Vote (b)

NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)aye absent
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Jeff EnnisBarnsley East and MexboroughLab (minister)absent no
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabaye aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabaye absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)aye aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)tellaye aye
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Jonathan R ShawChatham and AylesfordLab (minister)absent no
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)aye absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conno absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Ian PearsonDudley SouthLab (minister)absent no
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)aye absent
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)no absent
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabaye absent
Andrew MillerEllesmere Port and NestonLab (minister)absent no
Colin BurgonElmetLabaye absent
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)absent aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)aye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)aye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
Derek TwiggHaltonLab (minister)absent no
Greg HandsHammersmith and FulhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)absent aye
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLab (minister)absent no
Barry SheermanHuddersfieldLab (minister)absent no
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaCon (front bench)absent aye
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Ben WallaceLancaster and WyreCon (front bench)absent aye
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLababsent aye
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLab (minister)absent no
Norman BakerLewesLDemabsent aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labaye absent
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)absent no
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConno absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Michael WillsNorth SwindonLababsent no
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabaye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabaye absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye aye
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Yvette CooperPontefract and CastlefordLab (minister)absent no
Robert SymsPooleCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)no absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLababsent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)absent aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)no absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
Joan WalleyStoke-on-Trent NorthLab (minister)absent no
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
Sadiq KhanTootingLab (minister)absent no
Kate HoeyVauxhallLabaye aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Dan NorrisWansdykeLab (minister)absent no
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)absent tellno
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)absent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 25 voted the same way, with 403 voting in opposite ways. There were 43 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 175 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
403
(403 + 25 + 0.2x175)
=
403
463
= 0.870 = 87.0 %.


About the Project

The Public Whip is a not-for-profit, open source website created in 2003 by Francis Irving and Julian Todd and now run by Bairwell Ltd.

The Whip on the Web

Help keep PublicWhip alive