Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — Clause 4 — Preconditions — 7 Nov 2006 at 18:00 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — Clause 4 — Preconditions - 7 Nov 2006 at 18:00 - Division No. 343

I beg to move, That this House agrees with the Lords in the said amendment.

Motion made, and Question put, That consequential amendment (a) be made- [Mr. Heath].

The House divided: Ayes 210, Noes 298.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)no absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Alex SalmondBanff and BuchanSNP (front bench)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)no aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)absent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)absent aye
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian Liddell-GraingerBridgwaterCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Charles WalkerBroxbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Julian BrazierCanterburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Conaye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)no absent
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Ann McKechinGlasgow NorthLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Anne MiltonGuildfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)aye absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
Gareth ThomasHarrow WestLab (minister)absent no
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
Mike PenningHemel HempsteadCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Boris JohnsonHenleyCon (front bench)aye absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLab (minister)absent no
Jonathan DjanoglyHuntingdonCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLabno aye
Norman BakerLewesLDemabsent aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Joan RuddockLewisham, DeptfordLab (minister)absent no
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)no absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)absent no
Nadine DorriesMid BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)absent no
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)aye absent
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Patrick MercerNewarkCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Edward BallsNormantonLab (minister)absent no
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)absent aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Sarah McCarthy-FryPortsmouth NorthLab (minister)absent no
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemaye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
Hazel BlearsSalfordLab (minister)absent no
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)no absent
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLababsent aye
Joan WalleyStoke-on-Trent NorthLab (minister)absent no
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLabno aye
Bruce GeorgeWalsall SouthLababsent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)absent tellno
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Simon BurnsWest ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Barbara KeeleyWorsleyLab (minister)absent no

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 403 voted the same way, with 22 voting in opposite ways. There were 50 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 171 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
403
(403 + 22 + 0.2x171)
=
403
459.2
= 0.878 = 87.8 %.


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