Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — Local Government and Public Involvement in Health Bill — 22 Jan 2007 at 21:44 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — Local Government and Public Involvement in Health Bill - 22 Jan 2007 at 21:44 - Division No. 27

Question accordingly negatived.

Main Question put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 62 (Amendment on Second or Third Reading):-

The House divided: Ayes 280, Noes 206.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by name

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
David AndersonBlaydonLab (minister)absent no
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Norman BakerLewesLDemabsent aye
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Anne BeggAberdeen SouthLab (minister)absent no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Liz BlackmanErewashLab (minister)absent no
Julian BrazierCanterburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Nick BrownNewcastle upon Tyne East and WallsendLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)aye absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabaye absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
John CummingsEasingtonLab (minister)absent no
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)aye absent
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentaye aye
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)absent no
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Nadine DorriesMid BedfordshireConabsent aye
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Maria EagleLiverpool, GarstonLab (minister)absent no
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
David EvennettBexleyheath and CrayfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabaye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)absent no
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
David HansonDelynLab (minister)absent no
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
Stephen HepburnJarrowLab (minister)absent no
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLabaye aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Phil HopeCorbyLab (minister)absent no
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Boris JohnsonHenleyCon (front bench)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Alan KeenFeltham and HestonLab (minister)absent no
Ann KeenBrentford and IsleworthLab (minister)absent no
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)aye absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob LaxtonDerby NorthLababsent no
Mark LazarowiczEdinburgh North and LeithLab (minister)absent no
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)absent aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)aye absent
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)aye aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye aye
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye aye
Ann McKechinGlasgow NorthLab (minister)absent no
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)absent no
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)aye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLababsent no
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Denis MurphyWansbeckLab (minister)absent no
Dan NorrisWansdykeLab (minister)absent no
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)aye absent
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)aye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)no absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Joan RuddockLewisham, DeptfordLab (minister)absent no
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLababsent no
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
Michael SpicerWest WorcestershireCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabaye absent
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)absent aye
Desmond SwayneNew Forest WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)absent both
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Andrew TurnerIsle of WightConabsent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Derek TwiggHaltonLab (minister)absent no
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
Keith VazLeicester EastLabaye aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labaye absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Alan WilliamsSwansea WestLab (minister)absent no
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Michael WillsNorth SwindonLababsent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)absent no

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 26 voted the same way, with 392 voting in opposite ways. There were 65 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 163 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
392
(392 + 26 + 0.2x163)
=
392
450.6
= 0.870 = 87.0 %.


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