Comparison of Divisions: Sale of Radar System (Tanzania) — 30 Jan 2007 at 21:47 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) : Sale of Radar System (Tanzania) - 30 Jan 2007 at 21:47 - Division No. 40

The majority of MPs voted against the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • notes the protests of citizens of Tanzania in a demonstration in Dar es Salaam on 20th January 2007 demanding the arrest of any wrongdoers involved in the sale of a radar system to Tanzania in 2001-02;
  • further notes that the Serious Fraud Office is investigating the propriety of the deal and allegations of corruption;
  • further notes that Tanzania is one of the poorest countries in the world and a leading recipient of British aid;
  • further notes that Tanzania borrowed to finance this deal, whilst simultaneously seeking and receiving debt relief;
  • calls upon the Government to explain whether adequate enquiries were made into the propriety of the deal at the time;
  • further calls upon the Government to explain why the views of the World Bank were not adequately considered in the process of deciding whether to issue an export licence, in breach of Criterion Eight of the Consolidated EU and National Arms Export Licensing Criteria; and
  • further calls upon the Government to explain why consent to the deal was forced through a divided Cabinet by the Prime Minister in the face of the opposition of the then Secretary of State for International Development, the Rt Hon Member for Birmingham, Ladywood.

In its place, a new motion was proposed:

  • This House
  • notes that it would be inappropriate to comment on allegations of corruption in connection with the sale of a radar system to Tanzania in light of the current investigation by the Serious Fraud Office;
  • notes the great progress made by Tanzania since 2002 in achieving debt relief, poverty reduction and public service reform;
  • notes that the decision to grant an export licence for the air traffic control system was taken after due consideration of the Consolidated EU and National Arms Export Licensing Criteria;
  • acknowledges that that decision took place after full discussion at Cabinet level;
  • further notes that the UK subsequently established its own cross-Whitehall methodology for the assessment of applications against Criterion 8 of the consolidated criteria and was subsequently instrumental in establishing a shared methodology with its EU partners; and
  • further notes the Government's efforts to promote an International Arms Trade Treaty.

which then passed without a vote.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Tim BoswellDaventryConaye absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)aye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Boris JohnsonHenleyCon (front bench)aye absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)aye absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConaye absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard BenyonNewburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Charles HendryWealdenCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)absent aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick MercerNewarkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MiltonGuildfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark PritchardThe WrekinCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Andrew TurnerIsle of WightConabsent aye
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Rob WilsonReading EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy WrightRugby and KenilworthConabsent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPaye absent
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLabno aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLabno aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)no absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLabno absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)no absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)no absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)no absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)no absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)no absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLababsent aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Anne BeggAberdeen SouthLab (minister)absent no
Hazel BlearsSalfordLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Nick BrownNewcastle upon Tyne East and WallsendLababsent no
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
Chris BryantRhonddaLababsent no
Yvette CooperPontefract and CastlefordLab (minister)absent no
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Janet DeanBurtonLab (minister)absent no
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)absent no
Jeff EnnisBarnsley East and MexboroughLab (minister)absent no
Jim FitzpatrickPoplar and Canning TownLab (minister)absent no
Rob FlelloStoke-on-Trent SouthLab (minister)absent no
Barbara FollettStevenageLab (minister)absent no
Michael Jabez FosterHastings and RyeLab (minister)absent no
Bruce GeorgeWalsall SouthLababsent no
Nigel GriffithsEdinburgh SouthLab (minister)absent no
Phil HopeCorbyLab (minister)absent no
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)absent no
Jane KennedyLiverpool, WavertreeLababsent no
Sadiq KhanTootingLab (minister)absent no
Tony McNultyHarrow EastLab (minister)absent no
Alun MichaelCardiff South and PenarthLababsent no
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)absent no
Dan NorrisWansdykeLab (minister)absent no
Dawn PrimaroloBristol SouthLab (minister)absent no
Gwyn ProsserDoverLab (minister)absent no
Geoffrey RobinsonCoventry North WestLababsent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Gerry SutcliffeBradford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)absent no
Stephen TimmsEast HamLab (minister)absent no
Derek TwiggHaltonLab (minister)absent no
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
David WinnickWalsall NorthLab (minister)absent no
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)absent no
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)absent aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Eddie McGradySouth DownSDLPno absent
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)aye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 385 voted the same way, with 24 voting in opposite ways. There were 32 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 205 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
385
(385 + 24 + 0.2x205)
=
385
450
= 0.856 = 85.6 %.


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