Comparison of Divisions: House of Lords Reform — Support for bicameral Parliament — 7 Mar 2007 at 17:09 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : House of Lords Reform — Support for bicameral Parliament - 7 Mar 2007 at 17:09 - Division No. 65

The majority Ayes affirmed the principle of a bicameral parliament (i.e., that the House of Lords should be retained in some form)[1]. There then followed a series of votes on the make-up of the House of Lords, and the proportion of those sitting in it who should be elected, appointed, or there on hereditary grounds.

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  • [1] http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2007-03-07b.1524.1

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Opposite in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) was opposite to their vote on Motion (b). You can also see all differing votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Mark FieldCities of London and WestminsterConno aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentno aye
Nick AingerCarmarthen West and South PembrokeshireLab (minister)aye no
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)aye no
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLabaye no
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLab (minister)aye no
Ian AustinDudley NorthLab (minister)aye no
Edward BallsNormantonLab (minister)aye no
Gordon BanksOchil and South PerthshireLab (minister)aye no
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)aye no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)aye no
Roger BerryKingswoodLab (minister)aye no
Clive BettsSheffield, AttercliffeLab (minister)aye no
Liz BlackmanErewashLab (minister)aye no
Ben BradshawExeterLab (minister)aye no
Kevin BrennanCardiff WestLab (minister)aye no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)aye no
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)aye no
Chris BryantRhonddaLabaye no
Andy BurnhamLeighLab (minister)aye no
Dawn ButlerBrent SouthLab (minister)aye no
Liam ByrneBirmingham, Hodge HillLab (minister)aye no
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)aye no
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)aye no
David ChaytorBury NorthLab (minister)aye no
Paul ClarkGillinghamLab (minister)aye no
David ClellandTyne BridgeLab (minister)aye no
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)aye no
Vernon CoakerGedlingLab (minister)aye no
Yvette CooperPontefract and CastlefordLab (minister)aye no
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)aye no
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)aye no
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)aye no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)aye no
Wayne DavidCaerphillyLab (minister)aye no
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)aye no
Parmjit DhandaGloucesterLab (minister)aye no
David DrewStroudLab (minister)aye no
Angela EagleWallaseyLab (minister)aye no
Maria EagleLiverpool, GarstonLab (minister)aye no
Louise EllmanLiverpool, RiversideLab (minister)aye no
Jim FitzpatrickPoplar and Canning TownLab (minister)aye no
Barbara FollettStevenageLab (minister)aye no
Michael Jabez FosterHastings and RyeLab (minister)aye no
Hywel FrancisAberavonLab (minister)aye no
Bruce GeorgeWalsall SouthLabaye no
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)aye no
Helen GoodmanBishop AucklandLab (minister)aye no
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)aye no
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)aye no
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)aye no
Tom HarrisGlasgow SouthLab (minister)aye no
John HealeyWentworthLab (minister)aye no
John HeppellNottingham EastLab (minister)aye no
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLab (minister)aye no
Sharon HodgsonGateshead East and Washington WestLab (minister)aye no
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)aye no
Brian IddonBolton South EastLab (minister)aye no
Huw Irranca-DaviesOgmoreLab (minister)aye no
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)aye no
Sally KeebleNorthampton NorthLab (minister)aye no
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)aye no
Sadiq KhanTootingLab (minister)aye no
Jim KnightSouth DorsetLab (minister)aye no
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)aye no
Mark LazarowiczEdinburgh North and LeithLab (minister)aye no
Tom LevittHigh PeakLab (minister)aye no
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)aye no
Fiona MactaggartSloughLab (minister)aye no
Shahid MalikDewsburyLab (minister)aye no
Thomas McAvoyRutherglen and Hamilton WestLab (minister)aye no
Kerry McCarthyBristol EastLab (minister)aye no
Sarah McCarthy-FryPortsmouth NorthLab (minister)aye no
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)aye no
Pat McFaddenWolverhampton South EastLab (minister)aye no
Ann McKechinGlasgow NorthLab (minister)aye no
Gillian MerronLincolnLab (minister)aye no
Alun MichaelCardiff South and PenarthLabaye no
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLabaye no
Laura MoffattCrawleyLab (minister)aye no
Madeleine MoonBridgendLab (minister)aye no
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLabaye no
Chris MullinSunderland SouthLab (minister)aye no
Meg MunnSheffield, HeeleyLab (minister)aye no
Denis MurphyWansbeckLab (minister)aye no
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)aye no
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)aye no
Bill OlnerNuneatonLab (minister)aye no
James PlaskittWarwick and LeamingtonLab (minister)aye no
Gordon PrenticePendleLab (minister)aye no
Gwyn ProsserDoverLab (minister)aye no
James PurnellStalybridge and HydeLab (minister)aye no
Geoffrey RobinsonCoventry North WestLabaye no
Chris RuaneVale of ClwydLab (minister)aye no
Joan RuddockLewisham, DeptfordLab (minister)aye no
Christine RussellCity of ChesterLab (minister)aye no
Jonathan R ShawChatham and AylesfordLab (minister)tellaye no
Angela SmithSheffield, HillsboroughLab (minister)aye no
Jacqui SmithRedditchLab (minister)aye no
Peter SoulsbyLeicester SouthLab (minister)aye no
Phyllis StarkeyMilton Keynes South WestLab (minister)aye no
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)aye no
Gareth ThomasHarrow WestLab (minister)aye no
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)aye no
Stephen TimmsEast HamLab (minister)aye no
Mark ToddSouth DerbyshireLab (minister)aye no
Alan WhiteheadSouthampton, TestLab (minister)aye no
Malcolm WicksCroydon NorthLab (minister)aye no
Alan WilliamsSwansea WestLab (minister)aye no
Michael WillsNorth SwindonLabaye no
David WinnickWalsall NorthLab (minister)aye no
David WrightTelfordLab (minister)aye no
Iain WrightHartlepoolLab (minister)aye no
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)aye no
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLabno aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)no aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)no aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)no aye

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