Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — Clause 2 — Meaning of "relevant duty of care" — 16 May 2007 at 17:00 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — Clause 2 — Meaning of "relevant duty of care" - 16 May 2007 at 17:00 - Division No. 113

I beg to move, That this House disagrees with the Lords in the said amendment.

Question put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in the said amendment:-

The House divided: Ayes 299, Noes 228.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Tim BoswellDaventryConno absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Boris JohnsonHenleyCon (front bench)no absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConno absent
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)absent aye
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Nick HerbertArundel and South DownsCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MainSt AlbansCon (front bench)absent aye
Maria MillerBasingstokeCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentaye aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)aye aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLabaye aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabaye aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabaye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabaye absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)aye absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)aye absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)aye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabaye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)aye absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)aye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)aye absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)aye absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabaye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labaye absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)absent aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLababsent aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Ian AustinDudley NorthLab (minister)absent no
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Anne BeggAberdeen SouthLab (minister)absent no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Roger BerryKingswoodLab (minister)absent no
Roberta Blackman-WoodsCity of DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)absent no
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Jim DevineLivingstonLab (minister)absent no
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)absent no
Helen GoodmanBishop AucklandLab (minister)absent no
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)absent no
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
Tom HarrisGlasgow SouthLab (minister)absent no
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLab (minister)absent no
Phil HopeCorbyLab (minister)absent no
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Beverley HughesStretford and UrmstonLab (minister)absent no
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLab (minister)absent no
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Alan KeenFeltham and HestonLab (minister)absent no
Ann KeenBrentford and IsleworthLab (minister)absent no
Jane KennedyLiverpool, WavertreeLababsent no
Fiona MactaggartSloughLab (minister)absent no
Rob MarrisWolverhampton South WestLab (minister)absent no
Ann McKechinGlasgow NorthLab (minister)absent no
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLababsent no
Dawn PrimaroloBristol SouthLab (minister)absent no
Geoffrey RobinsonCoventry North WestLababsent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)absent no
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)absent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemno absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDemno absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Norman BakerLewesLDemabsent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)absent aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
George GallowayBethnal Green and BowRespectno absent
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)aye aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 28 voted the same way, with 407 voting in opposite ways. There were 41 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 170 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
407
(407 + 28 + 0.2x170)
=
407
469
= 0.868 = 86.8 %.


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