Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — New Clause 34 — Executive arrangements: move to alternative arrangements — 22 May 2007 at 20:15 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — New Clause 34 — Executive arrangements: move to alternative arrangements - 22 May 2007 at 20:15 - Division No. 125

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

Question put, That the clause be read a Second time:-

The House divided: Ayes 129, Noes 305.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)no absent
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)no tellaye
Damian GreenAshfordCon (front bench)absent aye
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)no aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)no aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)no aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Helen GoodmanBishop AucklandLab (minister)absent no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Brian IddonBolton South EastLab (minister)absent no
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Brooks NewmarkBraintreeCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)no aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Desmond TurnerBrighton, KemptownLab (minister)absent no
Doug NaysmithBristol North WestLab (minister)absent no
Dawn PrimaroloBristol SouthLab (minister)absent no
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)no aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
Wayne DavidCaerphillyLab (minister)absent no
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)no aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)no aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Alun MichaelCardiff South and PenarthLababsent no
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)no aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)no aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)no aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)no aye
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)no aye
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Phil HopeCorbyLab (minister)absent no
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm WicksCroydon NorthLab (minister)absent no
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Tim BoswellDaventryConaye absent
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)no aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Hugo SwireEast DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLab (minister)absent no
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Mark LazarowiczEdinburgh North and LeithLab (minister)absent no
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)absent no
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)no aye
Mark HobanFarehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Vernon CoakerGedlingLab (minister)absent no
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)no aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Greg HandsHammersmith and FulhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Douglas CarswellHarwichCon (front bench)absent aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDem (front bench)no aye
Mike PenningHemel HempsteadCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)no aye
Barry SheermanHuddersfieldLab (minister)absent no
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)no aye
Chris MoleIpswichLab (minister)absent no
Andrew TurnerIsle of WightConabsent aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLababsent aye
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)absent no
Stephen HepburnJarrowLab (minister)absent no
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)no aye
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
George HowarthKnowsley North and Sefton EastLab (minister)absent no
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)no aye
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLababsent aye
Andy BurnhamLeighLab (minister)absent no
Norman BakerLewesLDemno aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Jim DowdLewisham WestLab (minister)absent no
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)absent aye
Michael ConnartyLinlithgow and East FalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Jane KennedyLiverpool, WavertreeLababsent no
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Jim DevineLivingstonLab (minister)absent no
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)no aye
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)no absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)no aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)absent no
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Desmond SwayneNew Forest WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Edward BallsNormantonLab (minister)absent no
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)no tellaye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)no aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)no aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)no aye
Michael WillsNorth SwindonLababsent no
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Sally KeebleNorthampton NorthLab (minister)absent no
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Steve WebbNorthavonLDemno aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)no aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Linda GilroyPlymouth, SuttonLab (minister)absent no
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)no aye
Janet AndersonRossendale and DarwenLab (minister)absent no
Kevin BarronRother ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Hazel BlearsSalfordLab (minister)absent no
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLababsent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)absent no
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)no absent
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)no aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)no aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)no aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)absent no
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Sir David AmessSouthend WestCon (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDemno aye
Charlotte AtkinsStaffordshire MoorlandsLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Keith HillStreathamLab (minister)absent no
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)no aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)no aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)absent aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)no aye
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)absent no
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemno aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)no aye
David ClellandTyne BridgeLab (minister)absent no
Angela WatkinsonUpminsterCon (front bench)absent aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLababsent aye
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)absent aye
James PlaskittWarwick and LeamingtonLab (minister)absent no
Charles HendryWealdenCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Peter BoneWellingboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)no aye
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Patrick McLoughlinWest DerbyshireCon (front bench)absent aye
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)absent no
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)no aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Stephen HammondWimbledonCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)no aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 302 voted the same way, with 59 voting in opposite ways. There were 60 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 225 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
302
(302 + 59 + 0.2x225)
=
302
406
= 0.744 = 74.4 %.


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