Comparison of Divisions: Opposition Day — [12th allotted day] — Secretary of State for Health — 23 May 2007 at 18:48 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) (unedited): Opposition Day — [12th allotted day] — Secretary of State for Health - 23 May 2007 at 18:48 - Division No. 130

Question accordingly negatived.

Question, That the proposed words be there added, put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments):-

The House divided: Ayes 269, Noes 207.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Tim BoswellDaventryConno absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)no absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
Sir David AmessSouthend WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg HandsHammersmith and FulhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike PenningHemel HempsteadCon (front bench)absent aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew RosindellRomfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Andrew TurnerIsle of WightConabsent aye
Angela WatkinsonUpminsterCon (front bench)absent aye
John WhittingdaleMaldon and East ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentaye aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)aye aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLabaye aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabaye absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)aye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabaye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)aye absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)aye absent
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)aye absent
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labaye absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLababsent aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)absent aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLababsent aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)absent aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Charlotte AtkinsStaffordshire MoorlandsLab (minister)absent no
Kevin BarronRother ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Anne BeggAberdeen SouthLab (minister)absent no
Hazel BlearsSalfordLab (minister)absent no
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)absent no
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
Dawn ButlerBrent SouthLab (minister)absent no
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)absent no
David ClellandTyne BridgeLab (minister)absent no
Michael ConnartyLinlithgow and East FalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)absent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Wayne DavidCaerphillyLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Frank DoranAberdeen NorthLab (minister)absent no
Jim DowdLewisham WestLab (minister)absent no
Jeff EnnisBarnsley East and MexboroughLab (minister)absent no
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Bruce GeorgeWalsall SouthLababsent no
Linda GilroyPlymouth, SuttonLab (minister)absent no
Nigel GriffithsEdinburgh SouthLababsent no
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
Stephen HepburnJarrowLab (minister)absent no
George HowarthKnowsley North and Sefton EastLab (minister)absent no
Brian IddonBolton South EastLab (minister)absent no
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Fraser KempHoughton and Washington EastLababsent no
Jane KennedyLiverpool, WavertreeLababsent no
Sadiq KhanTootingLab (minister)absent no
Bob LaxtonDerby NorthLab (minister)absent no
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)absent no
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)absent no
Chris MoleIpswichLab (minister)absent no
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLababsent no
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
Doug NaysmithBristol North WestLab (minister)absent no
Dan NorrisWansdykeLab (minister)absent no
Dawn PrimaroloBristol SouthLab (minister)absent no
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
Alison SeabeckPlymouth, DevonportLab (minister)absent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)absent no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Gerry SutcliffeBradford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Desmond TurnerBrighton, KemptownLab (minister)absent no
Alan WilliamsSwansea WestLab (minister)absent no
Michael WillsNorth SwindonLababsent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)absent aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)absent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 23 voted the same way, with 372 voting in opposite ways. There were 52 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 199 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
372
(372 + 23 + 0.2x199)
=
372
434.8
= 0.856 = 85.6 %.


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