Comparison of Divisions: Rating (Empty Properties Bill) — chargeable amounts — 14 Jun 2007 at 16:15 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) : Rating (Empty Properties Bill) — chargeable amounts - 14 Jun 2007 at 16:15 - Division No. 139

Amendment tabled by the Conservative frontbench to reduce the discount payable for an empty property.

Question put, That the amendment be made:-

The Committee divided: Ayes 134, Noes 236.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard BenyonNewburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
James BrokenshireHornchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas CarswellHarwichCon (front bench)absent aye
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen CrabbPreseli PembrokeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FabricantLichfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark HobanFarehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)absent aye
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MainSt AlbansCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick McLoughlinWest DerbyshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MiltonGuildfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Brooks NewmarkBraintreeCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)absent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
Grant ShappsWelwyn HatfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael SpicerWest WorcestershireCon (front bench)absent aye
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Andrew TurnerIsle of WightConabsent aye
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)absent aye
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)aye absent
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentno aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLabno aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLabno aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)no absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLab (minister)no absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Labno absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)absent aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)absent aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)absent aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Ian AustinDudley NorthLab (minister)absent no
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Clive BettsSheffield, AttercliffeLab (minister)absent no
Hazel BlearsSalfordLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Russell BrownDumfries and GallowayLab (minister)absent no
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
David CairnsInverclydeLab (minister)absent no
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)absent no
David ChaytorBury NorthLab (minister)absent no
Paul ClarkGillinghamLab (minister)absent no
Tom ClarkeCoatbridge, Chryston and BellshillLababsent no
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Michael ConnartyLinlithgow and East FalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Yvette CooperPontefract and CastlefordLab (minister)absent no
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)absent no
John CummingsEasingtonLab (minister)absent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Janet DeanBurtonLab (minister)absent no
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)absent no
Parmjit DhandaGloucesterLab (minister)absent no
David DrewStroudLab (minister)absent no
Clive EffordElthamLab (minister)absent no
Jeff EnnisBarnsley East and MexboroughLab (minister)absent no
Bruce GeorgeWalsall SouthLababsent no
Linda GilroyPlymouth, SuttonLab (minister)absent no
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)absent no
David HansonDelynLab (minister)absent no
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
Stephen HepburnJarrowLab (minister)absent no
George HowarthKnowsley North and Sefton EastLab (minister)absent no
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLab (minister)absent no
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Eric JoyceFalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Jane KennedyLiverpool, WavertreeLababsent no
David KidneyStaffordLab (minister)absent no
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Fiona MactaggartSloughLab (minister)absent no
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)absent no
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Andrew MillerEllesmere Port and NestonLab (minister)absent no
Chris MoleIpswichLab (minister)absent no
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLababsent no
Meg MunnSheffield, HeeleyLab (minister)absent no
Denis MurphyWansbeckLab (minister)absent no
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)absent no
Mike O'BrienNorth WarwickshireLab (minister)absent no
Bill OlnerNuneatonLab (minister)absent no
Dawn PrimaroloBristol SouthLab (minister)absent no
Gwyn ProsserDoverLab (minister)absent no
Geoffrey RobinsonCoventry North WestLababsent no
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Barry SheermanHuddersfieldLab (minister)absent no
Jim SheridanPaisley and Renfrewshire NorthLababsent no
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)absent no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Helen SouthworthWarrington SouthLab (minister)absent no
Ian StewartEcclesLababsent no
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Gerry SutcliffeBradford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Dari TaylorStockton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Derek TwiggHaltonLab (minister)absent no
Joan WalleyStoke-on-Trent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Malcolm WicksCroydon NorthLab (minister)absent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
David WinnickWalsall NorthLab (minister)absent no
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemaye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Norman BakerLewesLDemabsent aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)absent aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDem (front bench)absent aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Steve WebbNorthavonLDemabsent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 287 voted the same way, with 19 voting in opposite ways. There were 69 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 271 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
287
(287 + 19 + 0.2x271)
=
287
360.2
= 0.797 = 79.7 %.


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