Comparison of Divisions: Opposition Day — [19th Allotted day] — Department for Children, Schools and Families — 10 Oct 2007 at 15:51 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Opposition Day — [19th Allotted day] — Department for Children, Schools and Families - 10 Oct 2007 at 15:51 - Division No. 205

I beg to move,

That this House notes with concern the fact that fewer than half the nation's schools are good according to the measure preferred by Ministers, that 40 per cent. of children leave primary school without having reached the standard in reading, writing and arithmetic demanded by the Government and that more than a million young people are not in education, employment or training; and therefore calls for an improvement in the leadership and culture of the Department for Children, Schools and Families to make it a stronger and more effective voice for better education.

I beg to move, To leave out from "House" to the end of the Question, and to add instead thereof:

'commends the real and substantial improvements achieved over the past decade in educational standards and welcomes the Government's commitment to a world class education for all; applauds the unprecedented investment in education over this period, so that per pupil revenue spending has increased nationally by £1,840 per pupil (66 per cent.) in real terms between 1997-98 and 2007-08 and that by 2010-11 there will have been a seven fold increase in real terms in capital investment since 1996-97; acknowledges the proportion of pupils achieving the required standard in English at age 11 increased from 63 per cent. in 1997 to 80 per cent. in 2007 and in maths from 62 per cent. to 77 per cent.; further acknowledges that the proportion of pupils achieving five good GCSEs (at A*-C grades) increased from 45.1 per cent. in 1997 to 58.5 per cent. in 2006 and from just 35.6 per cent. to 45.3 per cent. for those achieving five good GCSEs including English and maths; notes that in 1997 there were 616 schools where less than 25 per cent. of pupils achieved five good GCSEs and that this number fell to 47 in 2006; welcomes the proposal to raise the participation age for education or training to 18 years; further welcomes the launch of the first five Diplomas as a key step towards this objective; and further commends the 10 Year Youth Plan and the creation of the Department for Children, Schools and Families, bringing together strategic leadership for all services to drive up standards, tackle poverty and ensure all children and young people have a safe, secure and happy childhood.'.

Question put, That the original words stand part of the Question:-

The House divided: Ayes 231, Noes 313.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabno absent
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark TamiAlyn and DeesideLab (minister)absent no
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Maria MillerBasingstokeCon (front bench)absent aye
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLabno absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)no aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentno aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)absent no
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLabno aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabno aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)absent aye
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm WicksCroydon NorthLab (minister)absent no
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Tim BoswellDaventryConaye absent
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLababsent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)absent no
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark HobanFarehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Andrew DismoreHendonLab (minister)absent no
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Boris JohnsonHenleyConaye absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)aye absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)no aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)absent aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)absent no
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)absent no
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUP (front bench)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireConaye absent
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Mike O'BrienNorth WarwickshireLab (minister)absent no
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemaye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabno absent
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLabno absent
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)absent no
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)no absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
James PurnellStalybridge and HydeLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Brian JenkinsTamworthLab (minister)absent no
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark PritchardThe WrekinCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLabno aye
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 429 voted the same way, with 26 voting in opposite ways. There were 42 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 149 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
429
(429 + 26 + 0.2x149)
=
429
484.8
= 0.885 = 88.5 %.


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