Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — Greater London Authority Bill — 11 Oct 2007 at 14:15 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — Greater London Authority Bill - 11 Oct 2007 at 14:15 - Division No. 208

I beg to move, That this House disagrees with the Lords in the said amendment.

I welcome the hon. Member for Bromley and Chislehurst (Robert Neill) to the Front Bench and to the Dispatch Box again after last night. During consideration of the Bill, he has moved from the Back Benches to the Front Bench and has seen it through every stage, as has the hon. Member for Carshalton and Wallington (Tom Brake). They have lived with the Bill for longer than I have and I look forward to their contributions.

I beg to move, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment.

The hon. Member for Bromley and Chislehurst (Robert Neill) touched on the question of the budget and the budget-making process and powers. I can understand the superficial appeal of this amendment. It is reasonable to say that to a detached observer it may seem only fair that an assembly should be able to exercise its power to amend the Mayor's final draft consolidated budget by simple majority rather than the two-thirds majority currently required. However, the principle of the two thirds majority goes to the heart of the governance of the GLA-a governance and a model that has served London well since its introduction. I shall explain to the House why that principle is so important.

Question put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in the said amendment:-

The House divided: Ayes 278, Noes 165.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by name

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLababsent no
Ian AustinDudley NorthLab (minister)absent no
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLababsent no
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Hazel BlearsSalfordLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)absent no
Tim BoswellDaventryConno absent
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Kevin BrennanCardiff WestLab (minister)absent no
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)absent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLabaye aye
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
Greg ClarkTunbridge WellsCon (front bench)absent aye
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabaye absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
David ClellandTyne BridgeLab (minister)absent no
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Rosie CooperWest LancashireLab (minister)absent no
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)absent no
Geoffrey CoxTorridge and West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentaye aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Jim DevineLivingstonLab (minister)absent no
Parmjit DhandaGloucesterLab (minister)absent no
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLab (minister)absent no
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDemabsent aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel GriffithsEdinburgh SouthLababsent no
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)absent no
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)absent no
Greg HandsHammersmith and FulhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireConno absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLababsent no
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLababsent aye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)absent aye
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLababsent no
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Brian JenkinsTamworthLab (minister)absent no
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Boris JohnsonHenleyConno absent
Kevan JonesNorth DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian Liddell-GraingerBridgwaterCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLabaye absent
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)absent no
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabaye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)aye aye
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)aye absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Eric MartlewCarlisleLab (minister)absent no
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLababsent aye
Patrick McLoughlinWest DerbyshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan MealeMansfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick MercerNewarkConabsent aye
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)aye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)absent no
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Mark PritchardThe WrekinCon (front bench)absent aye
Gwyn ProsserDoverLab (minister)absent no
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ken PurchaseWolverhampton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabaye absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)no absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)absent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
Grant ShappsWelwyn HatfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye aye
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Angela SmithBasildonLababsent no
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)absent no
Jacqui SmithRedditchLab (minister)absent no
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter SoulsbyLeicester SouthLab (minister)absent no
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabaye absent
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Hugo SwireEast DevonConabsent aye
Mark TamiAlyn and DeesideLab (minister)absent no
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLabaye absent
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Andrew TurnerIsle of WightConabsent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Derek TwiggHaltonLab (minister)absent no
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)absent aye
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)aye aye
Ben WallaceLancaster and WyreCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Steve WebbNorthavonLDemabsent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
John WhittingdaleMaldon and East ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm WicksCroydon NorthLab (minister)absent no
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Rosie WintertonDoncaster CentralLab (minister)absent no
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Phil WoolasOldham East and SaddleworthLab (minister)absent no
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Iain WrightHartlepoolLab (minister)absent no
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 22 voted the same way, with 343 voting in opposite ways. There were 53 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 228 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
343
(343 + 22 + 0.2x228)
=
343
410.6
= 0.835 = 83.5 %.


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