Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — New Clause 5 — Sharing of communications data — 22 Oct 2007 at 19:30 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — New Clause 5 — Sharing of communications data - 22 Oct 2007 at 19:30 - Division No. 214

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

The House having divided: Ayes 198, Noes 273.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Hywel FrancisAberavonLab (minister)absent no
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
Angela SmithBasildonLababsent no
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLabno absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Andrew RobathanBlabyCon (front bench)absent aye
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentno aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)absent no
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Gerry SutcliffeBradford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Madeleine MoonBridgendLab (minister)absent no
Ian Liddell-GraingerBridgwaterCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLabno aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
David ChaytorBury NorthLab (minister)absent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Jonathan R ShawChatham and AylesfordLab (minister)absent no
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabno aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Tim BoswellDaventryConaye absent
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Ian AustinDudley NorthLab (minister)absent no
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonConabsent aye
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLababsent no
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian StewartEcclesLababsent no
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLabno absent
Mark LazarowiczEdinburgh North and LeithLab (minister)absent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Joan RyanEnfield NorthLab (minister)absent no
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)absent aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Paul ClarkGillinghamLab (minister)absent no
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Parmjit DhandaGloucesterLab (minister)absent no
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Boris JohnsonHenleyConaye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Peter AtkinsonHexhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)absent no
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLabno absent
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Ben WallaceLancaster and WyreCon (front bench)absent aye
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)absent aye
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLababsent no
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Nia GriffithLlanelliLab (minister)absent no
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Nadine DorriesMid BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)absent no
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)absent no
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)absent no
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConaye absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Phil WoolasOldham East and SaddleworthLab (minister)absent no
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Jim FitzpatrickPoplar and Canning TownLab (minister)absent no
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Chris BryantRhonddaLab (minister)absent no
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
Andrew RosindellRomfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemaye absent
Kevin BarronRother ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLababsent no
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Meg MunnSheffield, HeeleyLab (minister)absent no
Paddy TippingSherwoodLabno absent
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)absent aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Charlotte AtkinsStaffordshire MoorlandsLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Chris MullinSunderland SouthLab (minister)absent no
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Laurence RobertsonTewkesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark PritchardThe WrekinCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLabno aye
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)absent aye
Dan NorrisWansdykeLab (minister)absent no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Lyn BrownWest HamLab (minister)absent no
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Stephen HammondWimbledonCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark OatenWinchesterLDemaye absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Pat McFaddenWolverhampton South EastLab (minister)absent no
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)absent no
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)absent no

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 372 voted the same way, with 20 voting in opposite ways. There were 52 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 202 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
372
(372 + 20 + 0.2x202)
=
372
432.4
= 0.860 = 86.0 %.


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