Comparison of Divisions: Opposition Day — [2nd Allotted Day] — HM Revenue and Customs — 28 Nov 2007 at 16:05 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Opposition Day — [2nd Allotted Day] — HM Revenue and Customs - 28 Nov 2007 at 16:05 - Division No. 11

I beg to move,

That this House is deeply concerned at the Government's failure to protect the personal details of 25 million citizens; believes this security breach is due to systemic failures at HM Revenue and Customs; notes the inconsistencies between the version of events set out by the Chancellor of the Exchequer in his statement of 20th November and that revealed by the Government emails released by the National Audit Office on 22nd November; and calls on the Chancellor of the Exchequer to provide a comprehensive explanation about how the security breach occurred, why previous warnings about data security were ignored and what policy changes will be introduced to protect the public in future.

I beg to move, To leave out from "House" to the end of the Question, and to add instead thereof:

"approves of the decisive action taken by the Government when it became aware of the data loss by HM Revenue and Customs, including the collaborative work undertaken in association with the UK Payments Association, the British Bankers Association and the Building Societies Association and through them individual banks, building societies and other financial institutions which enabled them to put in place appropriate safeguards and monitor any irregular activity; welcomes the decision of the Chancellor of the Exchequer to initiate an urgent investigation by the Metropolitan Police and his appointment of Mr Kieran Poynter to conduct an independent review of HM Revenue and Customs' data handling procedures; acknowledges the steps which have already been taken to improve the department's data transfer processes; and notes the Chancellor's assurance that he will keep the House fully informed of further developments."

Question put, That the original words stand part of the Question:-

The House divided: Ayes 235, Noes 312.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark TamiAlyn and DeesideLab (minister)absent no
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLabno absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)no aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabno absent
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Madeleine MoonBridgendLab (minister)absent no
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Kevin BrennanCardiff WestLab (minister)absent no
Nick AingerCarmarthen West and South PembrokeshireLab (minister)absent no
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabno aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Gwyneth DunwoodyCrewe and NantwichLab (minister)no absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Tim BoswellDaventryConaye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Stephen TimmsEast HamLab (minister)absent no
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Ann McKechinGlasgow NorthLab (minister)absent no
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)aye absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Boris JohnsonHenleyConaye absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)aye absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)absent no
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)absent aye
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLabno absent
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
George HowarthKnowsley North and Sefton EastLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)no aye
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLababsent no
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)absent no
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)aye absent
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)absent no
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConaye absent
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)absent aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Robert SymsPooleCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Mark ToddSouth DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)absent no
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)no absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLababsent aye
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPaye absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Beverley HughesStretford and UrmstonLab (minister)absent no
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Geoffrey CoxTorridge and West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
John RandallUxbridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)no aye
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
John HealeyWentworthLab (minister)absent no
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)absent aye
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)absent no
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDemaye absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Pat McFaddenWolverhampton South EastLab (minister)absent no
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 420 voted the same way, with 24 voting in opposite ways. There were 28 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 174 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
420
(420 + 24 + 0.2x174)
=
420
478.8
= 0.877 = 87.7 %.


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