Comparison of Divisions: Opposition Day — [2nd Allotted Day] — Prisons — 28 Nov 2007 at 18:50 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Opposition Day — [2nd Allotted Day] — Prisons - 28 Nov 2007 at 18:50 - Division No. 13

Question accordingly negatived.

Question, That the proposed words be there added, put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments)-

The House divided: Ayes 294, Noes 202.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by name

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Nick AingerCarmarthen West and South PembrokeshireLab (minister)absent no
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)absent no
Tim BoswellDaventryConno absent
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Kevin BrennanCardiff WestLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabaye absent
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Liam ByrneBirmingham, Hodge HillLab (minister)absent no
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDemabsent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabaye absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)no absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Jim CunninghamCoventry SouthLab (minister)absent no
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)absent aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Jonathan DjanoglyHuntingdonCon (front bench)absent aye
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Nadine DorriesMid BedfordshireConabsent aye
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye absent
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLababsent aye
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Paul GoodmanWycombeCon (front bench)absent aye
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)no absent
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)absent no
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
John HealeyWentworthLab (minister)absent no
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLababsent no
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Mark HobanFarehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)aye aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
George HowarthKnowsley North and Sefton EastLab (minister)absent no
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Boris JohnsonHenleyConno absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)absent aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLabaye absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabaye absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)aye aye
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)aye absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)no absent
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye aye
Pat McFaddenWolverhampton South EastLab (minister)absent no
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)absent no
Jim McGovernDundee WestLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabaye aye
Ann McKechinGlasgow NorthLab (minister)absent no
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Madeleine MoonBridgendLab (minister)absent no
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Brooks NewmarkBraintreeCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDemno absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Mike PenningHemel HempsteadCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLabaye absent
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
John RandallUxbridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)no absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Independent Labourno absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Jacqui SmithRedditchLab (minister)absent no
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
Ian StewartEcclesLab (minister)absent no
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)aye absent
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Mark TamiAlyn and DeesideLab (minister)absent no
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Stephen TimmsEast HamLab (minister)absent no
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Mark ToddSouth DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
Don TouhigIslwynLab (minister)absent no
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)aye aye
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConno absent
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)absent tellno
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Alan WilliamsSwansea WestLab (minister)absent no
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Rosie WintertonDoncaster CentralLab (minister)absent no
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 24 voted the same way, with 382 voting in opposite ways. There were 41 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 199 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
382
(382 + 24 + 0.2x199)
=
382
445.8
= 0.857 = 85.7 %.


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