Comparison of Divisions: Business of the House — 28 Jan 2008 at 15:46 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Business of the House - 28 Jan 2008 at 15:46 - Division No. 55

I beg to move,

That, at this day's sitting, the Speaker shall put the Questions necessary to dispose of the Motion in the name of Ms Harriet Harman and Secretary David Miliband relating to the Business of the House (Lisbon Treaty) not later than Ten o'clock; proceedings may continue after the moment of interruption; and Standing Order No. 41A (Deferred divisions) shall not apply.

Question put:-

The House divided: Ayes 248, Noes 204.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabaye absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Liam ByrneBirmingham, Hodge HillLab (minister)absent no
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)aye aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentaye aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabaye absent
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)absent aye
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)absent no
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)aye absent
Brooks NewmarkBraintreeCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)tellno absent
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Desmond TurnerBrighton, KemptownLab (minister)absent no
Doug NaysmithBristol North WestLab (minister)absent no
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)absent aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
David ChaytorBury NorthLab (minister)absent no
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)absent no
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Brian H DonohoeCentral AyrshireLab (minister)absent no
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDemabsent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabaye aye
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Bob AinsworthCoventry North EastLab (minister)absent no
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew GwynneDenton and ReddishLab (minister)absent no
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Russell BrownDumfries and GallowayLab (minister)absent no
Jim McGovernDundee WestLab (minister)absent no
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLab (minister)absent no
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLababsent no
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)aye absent
Mark LazarowiczEdinburgh North and LeithLab (minister)absent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Colin BurgonElmetLabaye absent
Joan RyanEnfield NorthLab (minister)absent no
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Eric JoyceFalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Alan KeenFeltham and HestonLab (minister)absent no
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Sharon HodgsonGateshead East and Washington WestLab (minister)absent no
Vernon CoakerGedlingLab (minister)absent no
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)aye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Parmjit DhandaGloucesterLab (minister)absent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Tony McNultyHarrow EastLab (minister)absent no
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Boris JohnsonHenleyConno absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLab (minister)absent no
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDemabsent aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLababsent aye
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)absent no
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
George HowarthKnowsley North and Sefton EastLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Ben WallaceLancaster and WyreCon (front bench)absent aye
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)aye aye
Peter SoulsbyLeicester SouthLab (minister)absent no
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Joan RuddockLewisham, DeptfordLab (minister)absent no
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)absent aye
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)absent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)absent no
Peter HainNeathLababsent no
Desmond SwayneNew Forest WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConno absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Michael WillsNorth SwindonLab (minister)absent no
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabaye absent
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLababsent no
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Phil WoolasOldham East and SaddleworthLab (minister)absent no
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Rob WilsonReading EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Jacqui SmithRedditchLab (minister)absent no
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)no absent
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
Robert GoodwillScarborough and WhitbyCon (front bench)absent aye
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
John HayesSouth Holland and The DeepingsCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)no absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Charlotte AtkinsStaffordshire MoorlandsLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Dari TaylorStockton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
Joan WalleyStoke-on-Trent NorthLab (minister)absent no
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye absent
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark PritchardThe WrekinCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Alan CampbellTynemouthLab (minister)absent no
Chris RuaneVale of ClwydLab (minister)absent no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)aye aye
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Dan NorrisWansdykeLab (minister)absent no
John SpellarWarleyLababsent no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDemno absent
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)absent no
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
Pat McFaddenWolverhampton South EastLab (minister)absent no
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 19 voted the same way, with 363 voting in opposite ways. There were 60 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 204 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
363
(363 + 19 + 0.2x204)
=
363
422.8
= 0.859 = 85.9 %.


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