Comparison of Divisions: Deferred Division — Local government — 6 Feb 2008 at 20:17 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) (unedited): Deferred Division — Local government - 6 Feb 2008 at 20:17 - Division No. 73

That the draft Wiltshire (Structural Change) Order 2008, which was laid before this House on 8th January, be approved.

The House divided: Ayes 269, Noes 158.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Jeff EnnisBarnsley East and MexboroughLab (minister)absent no
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLabaye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)absent aye
Liam ByrneBirmingham, Hodge HillLab (minister)absent no
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabaye absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)aye aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentaye aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabaye absent
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLab (minister)absent no
Gerry SutcliffeBradford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)aye absent
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)absent aye
Dawn ButlerBrent SouthLab (minister)absent no
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)absent aye
Desmond TurnerBrighton, KemptownLab (minister)absent no
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
David ChaytorBury NorthLab (minister)absent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)absent no
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)aye aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Brian H DonohoeCentral AyrshireLab (minister)absent no
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Jonathan R ShawChatham and AylesfordLab (minister)absent no
Mark HunterCheadleLDemabsent aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Roberta Blackman-WoodsCity of DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabaye aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Bob AinsworthCoventry North EastLab (minister)absent no
Geoffrey RobinsonCoventry North WestLababsent no
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm WicksCroydon NorthLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLababsent no
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ian StewartEcclesLab (minister)absent no
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)absent no
Colin BurgonElmetLabaye absent
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Liz BlackmanErewashLab (minister)absent no
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Ben BradshawExeterLab (minister)absent no
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alan KeenFeltham and HestonLab (minister)absent no
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Vernon CoakerGedlingLab (minister)absent no
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)aye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gareth ThomasHarrow WestLab (minister)absent no
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDemabsent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDemabsent aye
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)no absent
Barry SheermanHuddersfieldLab (minister)absent no
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDemaye aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLababsent aye
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)absent no
Stephen HepburnJarrowLab (minister)absent no
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)absent no
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)aye aye
Andy BurnhamLeighLab (minister)absent no
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)aye aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Jane KennedyLiverpool, WavertreeLab (minister)absent no
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Tony LloydManchester CentralLab (minister)absent no
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alan MealeMansfieldLabaye absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)absent no
Desmond SwayneNew Forest WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard BenyonNewburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)absent no
Nick BrownNewcastle upon Tyne East and WallsendLab (minister)absent no
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConno absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)absent aye
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael WillsNorth SwindonLab (minister)absent no
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLababsent no
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabaye absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Huw Irranca-DaviesOgmoreLab (minister)absent no
Phil WoolasOldham East and SaddleworthLab (minister)absent no
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Mark FrancoisRayleighCon (front bench)absent aye
Rob WilsonReading EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)no absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Nick HurdRuislip - NorthwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLababsent no
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
John HayesSouth Holland and The DeepingsCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew SelousSouth West BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Sir David AmessSouthend WestCon (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)aye aye
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)no absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)absent aye
James PurnellStalybridge and HydeLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLababsent aye
Joan WalleyStoke-on-Trent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye absent
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alan WilliamsSwansea WestLab (minister)absent no
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey CoxTorridge and West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Alan CampbellTynemouthLab (minister)absent no
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)no absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)absent aye
Bruce GeorgeWalsall SouthLababsent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)absent aye
Dan NorrisWansdykeLab (minister)absent no
Helen JonesWarrington NorthLab (minister)absent no
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)absent tellno
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
John HealeyWentworthLab (minister)absent no
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)absent aye
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Simon BurnsWest ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick McLoughlinWest DerbyshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)absent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)absent no
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
John RedwoodWokinghamConabsent aye
Paul GoodmanWycombeCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 21 voted the same way, with 329 voting in opposite ways. There were 58 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 238 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
329
(329 + 21 + 0.2x238)
=
329
397.6
= 0.827 = 82.7 %.


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