Comparison of Divisions: Banking (Special Provisions) Bill — Second Reading — 19 Feb 2008 at 19:50 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : Banking (Special Provisions) Bill — Second Reading - 19 Feb 2008 at 19:50 - Division No. 81

The majority voted for a Second Reading for the passage of the Banking (Special Provisions) Bill,[1] the purpose of which was to nationalize the failed mortgage company Northern Rock. The debate[2] leading up to this vote was on the broad nature of the proposed law as well as any relevant reports about events leading up to it.[3] It is followed by a line by line discussion of the Bill known as the Committee Stage.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabaye absent
Mark TamiAlyn and DeesideLab (minister)absent no
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)aye tellaye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Jeff EnnisBarnsley East and MexboroughLab (minister)absent no
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)aye aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLabaye absent
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabaye absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabaye aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentaye aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabaye absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)aye aye
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Dawn ButlerBrent SouthLab (minister)absent no
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)aye aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)aye aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)aye aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)absent no
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)aye aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)aye aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)aye aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDemaye aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabaye aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)aye aye
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
David HansonDelynLab (minister)absent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)aye absent
Nigel GriffithsEdinburgh SouthLab (minister)absent no
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)aye aye
Colin BurgonElmetLabaye absent
Clive EffordElthamLab (minister)absent no
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)absent aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Eric JoyceFalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)aye aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)aye absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)aye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)aye absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)aye aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDemaye aye
Andrew DismoreHendonLab (minister)absent no
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDemaye aye
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDemaye aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)absent no
Don TouhigIslwynLab (minister)absent no
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Roger BerryKingswoodLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)aye aye
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)aye aye
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLababsent no
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)aye aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Gillian MerronLincolnLab (minister)absent no
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Alan MealeMansfieldLabaye absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Nadine DorriesMid BedfordshireConabsent aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)aye aye
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)aye absent
Richard BenyonNewburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)aye aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabaye absent
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLababsent no
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)aye aye
Jim FitzpatrickPoplar and Canning TownLab (minister)absent no
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Stephen CrabbPreseli PembrokeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark HendrickPrestonLab (minister)absent no
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Rob WilsonReading EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Andrew RosindellRomfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLababsent no
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabaye absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)aye aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Eddie McGradySouth DownSDLPaye absent
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)aye aye
John HayesSouth Holland and The DeepingsCon (front bench)absent aye
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)aye aye
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)aye aye
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye absent
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)aye aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)aye aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)no absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)absent aye
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)absent aye
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)absent tellno
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)aye aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)aye aye
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)absent no
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)aye aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 75 voted the same way, with 367 voting in opposite ways. There were 42 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 162 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
367
(367 + 75 + 0.2x162)
=
367
474.4
= 0.774 = 77.4 %.


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