Comparison of Divisions: Lisbon Treaty — Clause on 'Commencement' of the Bill should remain in the Bill — 5 Mar 2008 at 18:30 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : Lisbon Treaty — Clause on 'Commencement' of the Bill should remain in the Bill - 5 Mar 2008 at 18:30 - Division No. 119

The majority Aye voters passed a motion[1] that clause 8 ('Commencement') of the European Union (Amendment) Bill should remain in the Bill.

This vote took place after two votes on whether there should be a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty. Consequently, the House of Commons confirmed when the Lisbon Treaty would come into force in the UK.

The European Union (Amendment) Bill implements the Lisbon Treaty into UK law. The main aims of the Lisbon Treaty were to[2]:

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Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabaye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)aye tellaye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Alex SalmondBanff and BuchanSNP (front bench)no absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)aye aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLabaye absent
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)aye aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabaye absent
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabaye aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabno absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)aye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)aye aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)aye aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)aye aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)absent no
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)aye aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)no absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)aye aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDemaye aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabaye aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)aye aye
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
John CummingsEasingtonLab (minister)absent no
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Michael MatesEast HampshireCon (front bench)no absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)aye aye
Ian StewartEcclesLab (minister)absent no
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)aye absent
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)aye aye
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)no no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)no absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)aye aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDemaye aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Boris JohnsonHenleyConno absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDemabsent aye
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDemabsent aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLababsent aye
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)absent no
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)no no
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)aye aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)aye aye
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLababsent no
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Alan MealeMansfieldLabaye absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabaye aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConno absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)no absent
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabaye absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Derek ConwayOld Bexley and Sidcupwhilst Independent (front bench)no absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabaye absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)aye aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDemaye aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)aye aye
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)no absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)aye aye
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLababsent aye
David DrewStroudLab (minister)no no
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye absent
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)aye aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)aye aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)no absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)absent aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)absent aye
Denis MurphyWansbeckLab (minister)absent no
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)absent tellno
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)aye aye
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Mark OatenWinchesterLDemaye absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)aye aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 58 voted the same way, with 419 voting in opposite ways. There were 35 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 134 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
419
(419 + 58 + 0.2x134)
=
419
503.8
= 0.832 = 83.2 %.


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