Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — New Clause 16 — Earnings link — 22 Apr 2008 at 20:45 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — New Clause 16 — Earnings link - 22 Apr 2008 at 20:45 - Division No. 146

'The Secretary of State shall announce to Parliament his intention, as to the timing of the implementation of section 5 of the Pensions Act 2007, no later than the publication of the Pre-Budget Report for the financial year 2009-10.'.- [Jim Cousins.]

Brought up, and read the First time.

Question put, That the clause be added to the Bill:-

The House divided: Ayes 195, Noes 269.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Hywel FrancisAberavonLab (minister)absent no
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabno absent
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark TamiAlyn and DeesideLab (minister)absent no
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLabno absent
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)no aye
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
David EvennettBexleyheath and CrayfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabno aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabno absent
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)absent aye
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
Gerry SutcliffeBradford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)absent aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Eric MartlewCarlisleLab (minister)absent no
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst UKIP (front bench)aye absent
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLababsent aye
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey RobinsonCoventry North WestLababsent no
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm WicksCroydon NorthLab (minister)absent no
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
David HansonDelynLab (minister)absent no
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)aye absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)absent no
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)no absent
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Colin BurgonElmetLabaye absent
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)absent aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabno absent
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Ann McKechinGlasgow NorthLab (minister)absent no
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Tom HarrisGlasgow SouthLab (minister)absent no
Ian DavidsonGlasgow South WestLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)aye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenCon (front bench)aye absent
Greg HandsHammersmith and FulhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
Gareth ThomasHarrow WestLab (minister)absent no
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDemabsent aye
Jon TrickettHemsworthLababsent no
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDemabsent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)no aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Michael ConnartyLinlithgow and East FalkirkLab (minister)aye no
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLababsent no
Alan MealeMansfieldLabno absent
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)aye no
Nadine DorriesMid BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Phyllis StarkeyMilton Keynes South WestLab (minister)absent no
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)aye no
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)tellaye both
Henry BellinghamNorth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Yvette CooperPontefract and CastlefordLab (minister)absent no
Kim HowellsPontypriddLab (minister)absent no
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mark HendrickPrestonLab (minister)absent no
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Jacqui SmithRedditchLab (minister)absent no
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemaye absent
Janet AndersonRossendale and DarwenLab (minister)absent no
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark ToddSouth DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
John HayesSouth Holland and The DeepingsCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Andrew SelousSouth West BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)absent no
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Charlotte AtkinsStaffordshire MoorlandsLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPaye absent
Beverley HughesStretford and UrmstonLab (minister)absent no
David DrewStroudLab (minister)aye no
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Geoffrey CoxTorridge and West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Greg ClarkTunbridge WellsCon (front bench)absent aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)absent aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)absent tellno
Bob BlizzardWaveneyLab (minister)absent no
Charles HendryWealdenCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Grant ShappsWelwyn HatfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stephen HammondWimbledonCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
John RedwoodWokinghamConabsent aye
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)absent no

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 365 voted the same way, with 18 voting in opposite ways. There were 49 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 213 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
365
(365 + 18 + 0.2x213)
=
365
425.6
= 0.858 = 85.8 %.


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