Comparison of Divisions: Orders of the Day — Clause 15 — Rates of vehicle excise duty — 29 Apr 2008 at 22:00 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Orders of the Day — Clause 15 — Rates of vehicle excise duty - 29 Apr 2008 at 22:00 - Division No. 164

Question accordingly negatived.

Motion made, and Question put, That the clause stand part of the Bill:-

The Committee divided: Ayes 325, Noes 145.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)no absent
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConno absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)no absent
Sir David AmessSouthend WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard BenyonNewburyCon (front bench)absent aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Julian BrazierCanterburyCon (front bench)absent aye
James BrokenshireHornchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey CoxTorridge and West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Nadine DorriesMid BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FabricantLichfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul GoodmanWycombeCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick HurdRuislip - NorthwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian Liddell-GraingerBridgwaterCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Maria MillerBasingstokeCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MiltonGuildfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Lee ScottIlford NorthCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew SelousSouth West BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Grant ShappsWelwyn HatfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonConabsent aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Ben WallaceLancaster and WyreCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
Rob WilsonReading EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabaye aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabaye absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabaye absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabaye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabaye absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)aye absent
Jimmy HoodLanark and Hamilton EastLab (minister)aye absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)aye absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLabaye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)aye absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLabaye absent
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLabaye absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabaye absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)aye absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)aye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)absent aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)absent aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLababsent aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLababsent aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)absent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLababsent no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Paul ClarkGillinghamLab (minister)absent no
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
Rob FlelloStoke-on-Trent SouthLab (minister)absent no
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Peter HainNeathLababsent no
Stephen HesfordWirral WestLab (minister)absent no
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLababsent no
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Gerald KaufmanManchester, GortonLab (minister)absent no
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLababsent no
Bill OlnerNuneatonLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Angela SmithBasildonLab (minister)absent no
Angela SmithSheffield, HillsboroughLab (minister)absent no
Jacqui SmithRedditchLab (minister)absent no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Mark TamiAlyn and DeesideLab (minister)absent no
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)absent no
Derek TwiggHaltonLab (minister)absent no
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
Joan WalleyStoke-on-Trent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)absent tellno
Phil WoolasOldham East and SaddleworthLab (minister)absent no
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)absent no
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDemaye aye
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)aye aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDemaye aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)aye aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)aye aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)aye aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)aye aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)aye aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)aye tellaye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)aye aye
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)aye aye
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)aye aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemaye aye
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)aye aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemaye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)absent tellaye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDemabsent aye
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)absent aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)aye aye
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)aye absent
Eddie McGradySouth DownSDLPaye absent
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)no absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst UKIP (front bench)no absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 45 voted the same way, with 340 voting in opposite ways. There were 46 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 214 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
340
(340 + 45 + 0.2x214)
=
340
427.8
= 0.795 = 79.5 %.


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