Comparison of Divisions: Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill — Change abortion limit from 24 weeks to 20 weeks — rejected — 20 May 2008 at 22:00 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill — Change abortion limit from 24 weeks to 20 weeks — rejected - 20 May 2008 at 22:00 - Division No. 201

The majority of MPs voted against adding an new paragraph to the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill to change the time limit for the legal termination of pregnancy from 24 weeks to 20 weeks.[1]

A preceding attempt to change the limit to 16 weeks had also failed.[2]

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Opposite in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) was opposite to their vote on Motion (b). You can also see all differing votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)no aye
Tony BaldryBanburyConno aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)no aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)no aye
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)no aye
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)no aye
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)no aye
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)no aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)no aye
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastCon (front bench)no aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)no aye
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)no aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConno aye
Nick HurdRuislip - NorthwoodCon (front bench)no aye
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)no aye
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)no aye
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)no aye
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)no aye
Anne McIntoshVale of YorkCon (front bench)no aye
Patrick MercerNewarkCon (front bench)no aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)no aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)no aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConno aye
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)no aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonConno aye
David TredinnickBosworthConno aye
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)no aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)no aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)no aye
Bill WigginLeominsterCon (front bench)no aye
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)no aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentno aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)no aye
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)aye no
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)aye no
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)aye no
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLab (minister)aye no
Tom ClarkeCoatbridge, Chryston and BellshillLab (minister)aye no
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)aye no
John CummingsEasingtonLab (minister)aye no
Tony CunninghamWorkingtonLab (minister)aye no
David DrewStroudLab (minister)aye no
Michael Jabez FosterHastings and RyeLab (minister)aye no
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)aye no
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)aye no
Tom HarrisGlasgow SouthLab (minister)aye no
Huw Irranca-DaviesOgmoreLab (minister)aye no
Helen JonesWarrington NorthLab (minister)aye no
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)aye no
Shahid MalikDewsburyLab (minister)aye no
Thomas McAvoyRutherglen and Hamilton WestLab (minister)aye no
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)aye no
Jim McGovernDundee WestLab (minister)aye no
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)aye no
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)aye no
Frank RoyMotherwell and WishawLab (minister)aye no
Chris RuaneVale of ClwydLab (minister)aye no
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)aye no
Don TouhigIslwynLab (minister)aye no
Derek TwiggHaltonLab (minister)aye no
Claire WardWatfordLab (minister)aye tellno
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabno aye
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDemno aye
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)no aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)no aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)no aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)no aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)no aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)no aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)no aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)no aye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)no aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDemno aye
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)no aye
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)no aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)no aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)no aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)no aye
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)no aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)no aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)no aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)no aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)no aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)no aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)no aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)no aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)no aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)no aye
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)no tellaye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)no aye
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)no aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemno aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)no aye
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)no aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)no aye
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)no aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)no aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)no aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)no aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)no aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)no aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)no aye

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