Comparison of Divisions: Planning Bill — Mobile phone masts to require certificates — rejected — 25 Jun 2008 at 18:45 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) : Planning Bill — Mobile phone masts to require certificates — rejected - 25 Jun 2008 at 18:45 - Division No. 234

The majority of MPs voted against inserting two new clauses into the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 relating to planning permission for telecommunications masts.

The first clause said:[1]

  • Telecommunications masts: precautionary principle statement
  • Every application for planning permission for telecommunications masts and associated apparatus shall be accompanied by a precautionary principle statement which will be available for inspection
  • If the statement indicates that there is a threat of damage to health or the environment, it shall not be a ground for granting planning permission that there is a lack of full scientific certainty about the extent of the threat of damage to health or the environment.

The second clause which would have been inserted said:

  • Telecommunications masts: beam of greatest intensity certificate
  • Every application for planning permission for telecommunications masts and associated apparatus shall be accompanied by a certificate, which is available for inspection, setting out
  • the area and maximum range of the beam of greatest intensity,
  • the minimum and maximum distances at ground level of the beam of greatest intensity,
  • an explanation of the way in which the intensity of radiation falls off with distance from an antennae and of the level of the intensity of radiofrequency radiation,
  • an indication of where the beam of greatest intensity falls and the nearest and farthest distance from the antenna to these points.
  • Where a beam of greatest intensity falls on any part of any premises or land occupied by or consisting of an educational or medical facility, or of residential property, planning permission shall not be granted before first taking into account the information contained within the certificate, and any representations received in respect of that information.

These measures were the subject of three earlier private members that were talked out in one way or another.[2]

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by name

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Adam AfriyieWindsorCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick AingerCarmarthen West and South PembrokeshireLab (minister)absent no
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Sir David AmessSouthend WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter AtkinsonHexhamCon (front bench)absent aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)absent aye
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Henry BellinghamNorth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Richard BenyonNewburyCon (front bench)absent aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter BoneWellingboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)absent no
Graham BradyAltrincham and Sale WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julian BrazierCanterburyCon (front bench)absent aye
James BrokenshireHornchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Chris BryantRhonddaLab (minister)absent no
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Simon BurnsWest ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)absent aye
Alistair BurtNorth East BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabno absent
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Douglas CarswellHarwichCon (front bench)absent aye
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
Greg ClarkTunbridge WellsCon (front bench)absent aye
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabno absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey CoxTorridge and West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen CrabbPreseli PembrokeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)absent no
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentno aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Philip DaviesShipleyConabsent aye
Jonathan DjanoglyHuntingdonCon (front bench)absent aye
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLababsent no
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Nadine DorriesMid BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David DrewStroudLab (minister)absent no
James DuddridgeRochford and Southend EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)absent aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabno absent
David EvennettBexleyheath and CrayfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FabricantLichfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDemabsent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Mark FieldCities of London and WestminsterCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark FrancoisRayleighCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
David GaukeSouth West HertfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul GoodmanWycombeCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert GoodwillScarborough and WhitbyCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
Damian GreenAshfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Dominic GrieveBeaconsfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)absent no
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen HammondWimbledonCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg HandsHammersmith and FulhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark HarperForest of DeanCon (front bench)absent aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)absent no
John HayesSouth Holland and The DeepingsCon (front bench)absent aye
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
Charles HendryWealdenCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick HerbertArundel and South DownsCon (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Mark HobanFarehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Margaret HodgeBarkingLab (minister)no absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Philip HolloboneKetteringCon (front bench)absent aye
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick HurdRuislip - NorthwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Stewart JacksonPeterboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Kevan JonesNorth DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)absent aye
Sally KeebleNorthampton NorthLab (minister)absent no
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)absent aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian Liddell-GraingerBridgwaterCon (front bench)absent aye
David LidingtonAylesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Anne MainSt AlbansCon (front bench)absent aye
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabno aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLababsent no
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Anne McGuireStirlingLab (minister)no absent
Anne McIntoshVale of YorkCon (front bench)absent aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabno aye
Patrick McLoughlinWest DerbyshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Alan MealeMansfieldLabno absent
Patrick MercerNewarkCon (front bench)absent aye
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Maria MillerBasingstokeCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MiltonGuildfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Elliot MorleyScunthorpeLababsent no
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MurrisonWestburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)absent aye
Brooks NewmarkBraintreeCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)tellaye absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Mike PenningHemel HempsteadCon (front bench)absent aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)absent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark PritchardThe WrekinCon (front bench)absent aye
James PurnellStalybridge and HydeLab (minister)absent no
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
John RandallUxbridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
John RedwoodWokinghamConabsent aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabno absent
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Andrew RobathanBlabyCon (front bench)absent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Laurence RobertsonTewkesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Andrew RosindellRomfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
Lee ScottIlford NorthCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew SelousSouth West BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Grant ShappsWelwyn HatfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael SpicerWest WorcestershireCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst UKIP (front bench)aye absent
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian StewartEcclesLab (minister)absent no
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)no absent
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)absent aye
Desmond SwayneNew Forest WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonConabsent aye
Robert SymsPooleCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Dari TaylorStockton SouthLab (minister)absent no
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Andrew TurnerIsle of WightCon (front bench)absent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)no absent
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)absent aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)no aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)absent aye
Charles WalkerBroxbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Ben WallaceLancaster and WyreCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Angela WatkinsonUpminsterCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
John WhittingdaleMaldon and East ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Bill WigginLeominsterCon (front bench)absent aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)tellaye absent
Rob WilsonReading EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)no aye
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Jeremy WrightRugby and KenilworthCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 644 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 278 voted the same way, with 23 voting in opposite ways. There were 62 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 281 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
278
(278 + 23 + 0.2x281)
=
278
357.2
= 0.778 = 77.8 %.


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