Comparison of Divisions: Financial Crisis — 20 Jan 2009 at 17:07 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Financial Crisis - 20 Jan 2009 at 17:07 - Division No. 14

I beg to move,

That this House takes note of European Union Documents No. 14938/08, Commission Communication: From financial crisis to recovery: A European framework for action and No. 16097/08, Commission Communication: A European economic recovery plan, and endorses the Government's approach to discussions with European partners on these issues.

The House having divided: Ayes 330, Noes 156.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by name

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Danny AlexanderInverness, Nairn, Badenoch and StrathspeyLDem (front bench)aye aye
David AndersonBlaydonLab (minister)absent no
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)aye aye
John BarrettEdinburgh WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Alan BeithBerwick-upon-TweedLDem (front bench)aye aye
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Hazel BlearsSalfordLab (minister)absent no
Crispin BluntReigateCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Annette BrookeMid Dorset and North PooleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLababsent no
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabaye absent
Simon BurnsWest ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Lorely BurtSolihullLDem (front bench)aye aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
Liam ByrneBirmingham, Hodge HillLab (minister)absent no
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabaye absent
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabaye absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)absent no
David ChaytorBury NorthLab (minister)absent no
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
Tom ClarkeCoatbridge, Chryston and BellshillLab (minister)absent no
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)absent aye
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Rosie CooperWest LancashireLab (minister)absent no
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabaye aye
Geoffrey CoxTorridge and West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLabaye absent
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentaye aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenConno absent
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)absent no
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLababsent no
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Clive EffordElthamLababsent no
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Bill EtheringtonSunderland NorthLabaye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConno absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)aye aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)aye aye
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
Caroline FlintDon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)aye absent
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)aye aye
Michael FosterWorcesterLab (minister)absent no
Michael Jabez FosterHastings and RyeLab (minister)absent no
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)aye aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabaye absent
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)absent no
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConno absent
Nigel GriffithsEdinburgh SouthLab (minister)absent no
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)aye aye
David HeathSomerton and FromeLDem (front bench)aye aye
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
John HemmingBirmingham, YardleyLDem (front bench)aye aye
Mark HendrickPrestonLab (minister)absent no
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Stephen HesfordWirral WestLab (minister)absent no
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLababsent no
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Keith HillStreathamLab (minister)absent no
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)aye aye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)aye aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyCon (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)aye aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)aye aye
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)aye absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemaye absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDemabsent aye
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLabaye absent
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark LazarowiczEdinburgh North and LeithLab (minister)absent no
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)aye aye
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLabaye absent
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)aye aye
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)aye absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabaye absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)no absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabaye aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Eric MartlewCarlisleLab (minister)absent no
John MasonGlasgow EastSNP (front bench)aye aye
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)no absent
Steve McCabeBirmingham, Hall GreenLab (minister)absent no
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye absent
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
Anne McGuireStirlingLabaye absent
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabaye aye
Alan MealeMansfieldLabaye absent
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)aye absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Laura MoffattCrawleyLababsent no
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)aye aye
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Greg MulhollandLeeds North WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
David MundellDumfriesshire, Clydesdale and TweeddaleCon (front bench)no absent
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)absent aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)absent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
James PlaskittWarwick and LeamingtonLababsent no
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)aye aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)absent aye
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem (front bench)aye tellaye
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabaye absent
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)aye aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Geoffrey RobinsonCoventry North WestLababsent no
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Dan RogersonNorth CornwallLDem (front bench)aye tellaye
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLab (minister)absent no
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)aye aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)aye aye
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)absent aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye aye
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)absent no
Robert SmithWest Aberdeenshire and KincardineLDem (front bench)aye aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)aye absent
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDem (front bench)aye aye
Desmond SwayneNew Forest WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)absent aye
Gareth ThomasHarrow WestLab (minister)absent no
Emily ThornberryIslington South and FinsburyLab (minister)absent no
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Desmond TurnerBrighton, KemptownLab (minister)absent no
Neil TurnerWiganLabaye absent
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)absent aye
Rudi VisFinchley and Golders GreenLabaye absent
Joan WalleyStoke-on-Trent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConno absent
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Steve WebbNorthavonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)aye aye
Betty WilliamsConwyLabaye absent
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)aye aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)aye aye
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)aye aye
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)no absent
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)aye aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabaye aye
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Iain WrightHartlepoolLab (minister)absent no
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)aye aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 60 voted the same way, with 345 voting in opposite ways. There were 46 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 195 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
345
(345 + 60 + 0.2x195)
=
345
444
= 0.777 = 77.7 %.


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