Comparison of Divisions: Deferred Divisions — Coroners and Justice Bill (Ways and Means) — 26 Jan 2009 at 21:48 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Deferred Divisions — Coroners and Justice Bill (Ways and Means) - 26 Jan 2009 at 21:48 - Division No. 23

Motion made, and Question put forthwith (Standing Order No.52(1)(a)),

That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Coroners and Justice Bill it is expedient to authorise-
(1) the imposition of charges by virtue of the Act in connection with costs incurred in connection with motor vehicle orders; and
(2) the payment of sums into the Consolidated Fund. - (Ian Lucas. )

The House divided: Ayes 233, Noes 97.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabaye absent
Gerald HowarthAldershotCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)aye absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Nick HerbertArundel and South DownsCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Damian GreenAshfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Jeff EnnisBarnsley East and MexboroughLababsent no
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Maria MillerBasingstokeCon (front bench)absent aye
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabaye aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLabaye absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
David EvennettBexleyheath and CrayfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Siôn SimonBirmingham, ErdingtonLab (minister)absent no
Steve McCabeBirmingham, Hall GreenLab (minister)absent no
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)aye absent
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)absent aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLababsent aye
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentaye aye
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)absent aye
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Ruth KellyBolton WestLababsent no
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)absent aye
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Brooks NewmarkBraintreeCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Madeleine MoonBridgendLab (minister)absent no
Ian Liddell-GraingerBridgwaterCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)absent aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Charles WalkerBroxbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Kitty UssherBurnleyLab (minister)absent no
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)absent no
Julian BrazierCanterburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)aye aye
Mark WilliamsCeredigionLDem (front bench)absent aye
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Dame Cheryl GillanChesham and AmershamCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark FieldCities of London and WestminsterCon (front bench)absent aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLababsent aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Tom ClarkeCoatbridge, Chryston and BellshillLab (minister)absent no
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey RobinsonCoventry North WestLababsent no
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Andrew GwynneDenton and ReddishLab (minister)absent no
Bob LaxtonDerby NorthLab (minister)absent no
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Caroline FlintDon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Jim McGovernDundee WestLab (minister)absent no
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)absent aye
John CummingsEasingtonLab (minister)absent no
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Hugo SwireEast DevonConabsent aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLababsent no
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim LoughtonEast Worthing and ShorehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Nigel WatersonEastbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen O'BrienEddisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)aye absent
Mark LazarowiczEdinburgh North and LeithLab (minister)absent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Joan RyanEnfield NorthLababsent no
David BurrowesEnfield, SouthgateCon (front bench)absent aye
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConabsent aye
Ben BradshawExeterLab (minister)absent no
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark HobanFarehamCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugh RobertsonFaversham and Mid KentCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheConabsent aye
Edward LeighGainsboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Sharon HodgsonGateshead East and Washington WestLab (minister)absent no
John MasonGlasgow EastSNP (front bench)absent aye
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Tom HarrisGlasgow SouthLababsent no
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Anne MiltonGuildfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Derek TwiggHaltonLababsent no
Greg HandsHammersmith and FulhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLababsent aye
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Douglas CarswellHarwichCon (front bench)absent aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLababsent aye
Mike PenningHemel HempsteadCon (front bench)absent aye
Jon TrickettHemsworthLababsent no
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter AtkinsonHexhamCon (front bench)absent aye
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Frank DobsonHolborn and St PancrasLababsent no
Celia BarlowHoveLab (minister)absent no
Barry SheermanHuddersfieldLab (minister)absent no
Jonathan DjanoglyHuntingdonCon (front bench)absent aye
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Lee ScottIlford NorthCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLababsent aye
Don TouhigIslwynLab (minister)absent no
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
Roger BerryKingswoodLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)absent aye
Norman BakerLewesLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)aye aye
Michael FabricantLichfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Jane KennedyLiverpool, WavertreeLab (minister)absent no
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)aye aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Margaret MoranLuton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
John WhittingdaleMaldon and East ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Nadine DorriesMid BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLabaye absent
Phyllis StarkeyMilton Keynes South WestLab (minister)absent no
Siobhain McDonaghMitcham and MordenLababsent no
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Peter HainNeathLababsent no
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Desmond SwayneNew Forest WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Kevan JonesNorth DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Natascha EngelNorth East DerbyshireLababsent no
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)absent aye
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Michael WillsNorth SwindonLab (minister)absent no
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Hilary ArmstrongNorth West DurhamLababsent no
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLabaye absent
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLababsent no
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabaye aye
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabaye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Stewart JacksonPeterboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Jim FitzpatrickPoplar and Canning TownLab (minister)absent no
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark FrancoisRayleighCon (front bench)absent aye
Jacqui SmithRedditchLab (minister)absent no
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Andrew RosindellRomfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemno absent
Kevin BarronRother ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Nick HurdRuislip - NorthwoodCon (front bench)absent aye
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
Hazel BlearsSalfordLab (minister)absent no
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)absent no
Michael FallonSevenoaksCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabaye absent
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)aye absent
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Fiona MactaggartSloughLab (minister)absent no
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Mark ToddSouth DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)absent no
David MilibandSouth ShieldsLab (minister)aye absent
Patrick CormackSouth StaffordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLabaye absent
Andrew SelousSouth West BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
David GaukeSouth West HertfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Sir David AmessSouthend WestCon (front bench)absent aye
John PughSouthportLDem (front bench)absent aye
James PurnellStalybridge and HydeLab (minister)absent no
Barbara FollettStevenageLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLabaye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
John GummerSuffolk CoastalConabsent aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
Alan WilliamsSwansea WestLab (minister)absent no
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Laurence RobertsonTewkesburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Greg ClarkTunbridge WellsCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris RuaneVale of ClwydLababsent no
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)aye aye
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)absent no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)aye aye
Denis MurphyWansbeckLab (minister)absent no
Dan NorrisWansdykeLababsent no
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Charles HendryWealdenCon (front bench)absent aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
Grant ShappsWelwyn HatfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
John HealeyWentworthLab (minister)absent no
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Oliver LetwinWest DorsetCon (front bench)absent aye
Lyn BrownWest HamLababsent no
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael SpicerWest WorcestershireCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MurrisonWestburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)absent aye
Neil TurnerWiganLabaye absent
Stephen HammondWimbledonCon (front bench)absent aye
Adam AfriyieWindsorCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen HesfordWirral WestLab (minister)absent no
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
John RedwoodWokinghamConabsent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael FosterWorcesterLab (minister)absent no
Paul GoodmanWycombeCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)absent no
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)absent no

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 18 voted the same way, with 266 voting in opposite ways. There were 81 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 281 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
266
(266 + 18 + 0.2x281)
=
266
340.2
= 0.782 = 78.2 %.


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