Comparison of Divisions: Bill Presented — Coroners and Justice Bill (Programme) (No. 3) — 23 Mar 2009 at 17:36 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Bill Presented — Coroners and Justice Bill (Programme) (No. 3) - 23 Mar 2009 at 17:36 - Division No. 82

I beg to move,

That the Order of 26 January 2009 (Coroners and Justice Bill (Programme)), as varied by the Order of 4 March 2009 (Coroners and Justice Bill (Programme) (No. 2)), be further varied as follows:

Question put.

The House divided: Ayes 268, Noes 220.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their inverted vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
John ReidAirdrie and ShottsLabaye absent
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)aye absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)aye absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)aye absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye absent
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)aye absent
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLabaye absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)aye absent
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPabsent aye
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)absent aye
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)absent aye
Graham StuartBeverley and HoldernessCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Liam ByrneBirmingham, Hodge HillLab (minister)absent no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)aye aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLababsent aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabaye absent
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
Mark SimmondsBoston and SkegnessCon (front bench)absent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)aye aye
Desmond TurnerBrighton, KemptownLab (minister)absent no
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)aye aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)aye absent
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Tony WrightCannock ChaseLab (minister)absent no
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Jonathan R ShawChatham and AylesfordLab (minister)absent no
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)absent aye
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)aye absent
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)aye aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Ann WintertonCongletonCon (front bench)absent aye
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)aye absent
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)absent no
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)no absent
Michael AncramDevizesCon (front bench)absent aye
Shahid MalikDewsburyLab (minister)absent no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)no absent
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLababsent no
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)aye absent
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)absent no
Greg KnightEast YorkshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Ian StewartEcclesLab (minister)absent no
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)aye absent
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Colin BurgonElmetLabaye absent
Clive EffordElthamLababsent no
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)no absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)aye absent
Parmjit DhandaGloucesterLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)aye absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)aye absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)aye absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabaye aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabaye aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)aye aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabaye aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)aye absent
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Chris MoleIpswichLab (minister)absent no
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaConabsent aye
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLabaye absent
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
George HowarthKnowsley North and Sefton EastLab (minister)absent no
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)absent aye
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)aye absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)aye absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)aye absent
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)aye aye
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLababsent no
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)aye absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)absent aye
Michael ConnartyLinlithgow and East FalkirkLab (minister)absent no
Maria EagleLiverpool, GarstonLab (minister)absent no
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabaye absent
Jane KennedyLiverpool, WavertreeLab (minister)absent no
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)absent aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)aye aye
Nicholas WintertonMacclesfieldCon (front bench)absent aye
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)no absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLabaye absent
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)absent no
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)aye absent
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye
Kevan JonesNorth DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)no absent
Mark LancasterNorth East Milton KeynesCon (front bench)absent aye
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)no absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)no absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLababsent aye
Huw Irranca-DaviesOgmoreLab (minister)absent no
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabaye aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)absent aye
Kim HowellsPontypriddLababsent no
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)no absent
Mark HendrickPrestonLab (minister)absent no
Paul TruswellPudseyLabaye aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)aye absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)aye absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)no absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Robert GoodwillScarborough and WhitbyCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabaye absent
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)absent aye
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)absent aye
Jim KnightSouth DorsetLab (minister)absent no
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLabaye absent
David GaukeSouth West HertfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)aye absent
Charlotte AtkinsStaffordshire MoorlandsLab (minister)absent no
Anne McGuireStirlingLabaye absent
Ann CoffeyStockportLababsent no
Dari TaylorStockton SouthLab (minister)absent no
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabaye aye
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark PritchardThe WrekinCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)aye aye
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)no absent
Sadiq KhanTootingLab (minister)absent no
Chris RuaneVale of ClwydLababsent no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Anne McIntoshVale of YorkCon (front bench)absent aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLab (minister)absent aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)absent aye
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)no absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)aye absent
Neil TurnerWiganLab (minister)aye absent
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)absent no
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Paul GogginsWythenshawe and Sale EastLab (minister)absent no
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)absent no

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 16 voted the same way, with 405 voting in opposite ways. There were 60 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 165 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up on opposite sides. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
405
(405 + 16 + 0.2x165)
=
405
454
= 0.892 = 89.2 %.


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